 kdandaoc
join:2003-10-13 608052427 | reply to enyikos Re: Free 400MB Webspace, 5500MB Monthly Bandwidth
well, after reading thwe critical thinking in the preceding posts, I now have absolutely no desire to further investigate your claim...thanks guys! |
|
  53059959 Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02 PwnZone
| they have a forum for this btw on a different site: »www.freewebspace.net/forums/foru···php?f=32 personally, I don't bother with the ones that require you to post. |
|
  sapo I eat meat Premium join:2002-09-16 Sacramento, CA | reply to enyikos 10 Second Hosting. |
|
 SipSizzurp Fo' Shizzle Premium join:2005-12-28 Hilo, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to big greg said by big greg : Ah, but what about people who don't have a credit card and can't use their mom's? There's your market. Way, Way, Wayyy tooo damned close for comfort ............:D  |
|
  dvd536 as Mr. Pink as they come Premium join:2001-04-27 Phoenix, AZ
| reply to removed said by removed :He can't - it's a shared/reseller hosting server, not his own. at least its not on a cable modem connection........ is it? -- You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
|
  removed Crisis Management Squad Premium,VIP join:2002-02-08 Houston, TX clubs: | Been a while since we've had one of those... |
|
 nguyen27
join:2003-05-14 Quincy, MA 1 edit | reply to enyikos I just read the TOS, and now I'm having a headache... black/grey with white letters seem to do it awfully quick. It looks like some sort of underground WWW  |
|
  insomx Premium join:2003-01-26 Canada | Wow, that site is terribly slow.... |
|
  Info-G
@pldt.net 1 edit | reply to enyikos (deleted) |
|
  zbryne
join:2005-04-11 Ardmore, PA | reply to enyikos After you have made 5 posts in the foums, you can apply for the following plan: Ugghhh |
|
 James_d
join:2005-08-27 uk
| reply to enyikos > Sheesh, these forums are so hard to get along with people in.
You made a false claim that the hosting was free in the subject of your post to get people to read it. What else do you expect?
On the technical side, how many terrabytes can each database be? Is their size included in the total hosting size? Any limits on queries per second or disk or time use by a single query? What database server software and version? If MySQL, is InnoDB available? Is penetration testing or verification of the database server acceptable? Any limits on CPU, RAM or disk seek use?
Why don't you allow links to sites selling music in the MP3 format? Is linking to sites selling it in the OGG or FLAC formats OK?
I expect that I'm not the only person here who's been paid to do what you consider "free" - managing and posting to message boards. You're offering a rate a few hundreds of times less than the one I expect for such services. |
|
 Microsoft 98
join:2003-01-22 Micmac, NS | reply to enyikos I seen few sites offering the same thing but you need to post something to make it look good now whats up with that? -- http ://www.freewebs.com/trafficslamming |
|
  big greg Premium,MVM,Ex-Mod 2005-6 join:2003-10-11 Boston, MA clubs: 
| reply to enyikos I was thinking about this over night.
Gentlemen, we have an opportunity here. This guy already has his reseller account, and he's on the hook for that every month (or maybe he prepaid). Either way, we know he has put cash into this. He speaks rather well for himself, doesn't lose it when we jump all over him. He has enough going in the technical side to get this far. Let's assume for a moment that maybe he's ok on facilities, technical knowledge, and even temperament. So it isn't all bad.
We know his current business model just ... uhh.... high risk... lots of work... ummm I'll go with that his business model is not assured success in the marketplace.
So. An alternate plan. Here's what I was thinking. First of all, forget the free hosting. You will only get the worst of the bottom feeder part of the market. Leave that end of things to people who can make money in it because they have gawdawful volume.
Instead, cater to just above that, the guy who wasn't ready to spend $6/month to have what he really needs. Let's say you go $3/month, but you have to buy blocks of 6 months at a time, that's $18. Or maybe you go $2/month, $24/year.
Now for payment plans, you have to be able to be flexible. Screw credit cards, those guys will go to another market. You want the market for the guy or gal without a credit card. You can resell domain names to them.
Take whatever payment you can. Set up a PO box. Take checks. Use Paypal (but charge 50 cents more a month to take it). Use your friends. Get that crazy uncle geezer guy that always reeks of Guinness to move his site, he pays you in beer or cash or his collection of Star Wars on DVD. Use your imagination.
Have a reasonable simple TOS that people will read, then stick to it. State that you will send a (pro-rated) refund if you cancel their service for TOS violations.
When the time runs out, pow, send email and take the web site offline, leave the email running. That will leave the communication lines open, then you either get you paid again OR you can ditch the account.
I think something like that would be successful. Or at least it has a chance to be successful. What do the rest of you think? -- Give ya an example, show you what I mean: suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. |
|
  twizlar I dont think so. Premium join:2003-12-24 Brantford, ON | reply to enyikos Sweet, beer and dvds for hosting. I'll take that dealio. |
|
 cbiggers
join:2000-08-10 San Luis Obispo, CA clubs:  | reply to dvd536 No it's being hosted at Layeredtech. |
|
 enyikos
join:2006-01-29 Tulsa, OK
| reply to enyikos I totally understand what everyone is saying. There's no way I would be able to pay for the server. There are about 4 or 5 hosting services on the server, 3 of which are free. All of them have some ads on them that bring in money. Also, we're trying to start a paid hosting service to bring in some more money to help pay for it.
Another reason I like the forum idea is the fact that I want an active community. There's no scamming about this. |
|
 enyikos
join:2006-01-29 Tulsa, OK 1 edit | reply to Info-G Can a mod please delete this? All this tells people is who I registered my domain through and what my email address is (which means spam).
Thanks. |
|
  rjackson Premium,Mod join:2002-04-02 Ringgold, GA clubs:
Host: SMC Networks Automotive VOIP Tech Chat ViaTalk Teleblend
| reply to enyikos said by enyikos :Another reason I like the forum idea is the fact that I want an active community. There's no scamming about this. Holding peoples' hosting accounts hostage with compulsory posting on some forum is not the way to build an active community. I mean, if it were me I would just script it to post some gibberish automatically each day. |
|
  rjackson Premium,Mod join:2002-04-02 Ringgold, GA clubs:
Host: SMC Networks Automotive VOIP Tech Chat ViaTalk Teleblend
| reply to enyikos said by enyikos :Can a mod please delete this? All this tells people is who I registered my domain through and what my email address is (which means spam). Thanks. That's public information anyone could obtain by doing a WHOIS on your domain name. |
|
  removed Crisis Management Squad Premium,VIP join:2002-02-08 Houston, TX clubs:
| reply to enyikos said by enyikos :Another reason I like the forum idea is the fact that I want an active community. There's no scamming about this. How authentic is the community when the only thing keeping people around is free hosting?
Like I said in the other thread, holding peoples' accounts hostage isn't an effective way to have a nice community. -- B | irc.removed.us - #dslr | Give me a ring: 718-606-4100 |
|