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PhoenixDown
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reply to bogey780
Re: This is why we should support a 2 tier internet!

One of the reasons why we need more than 2 companies in an area... duopolies dont work, especially when lots of people only have 1 of the 2 to choose from.

If I have a selection of providers to choose from, guess what happens when the provider I am with decides to be cheap on the upgrades? I go to someone else.
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bogey780

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But the trouble you get is the same that happened with the DSL CLECs. Bell isn't going to drop the money down to do the upgrades knowing other companies will just take advantage of thsoe upgrades without having contributed anything. Hence the "use our pipes for free" quotes.


Nightfall
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Tiering would actually probably ease their network lag overall. There's probably a lot of latency irrelevent data moving across the network that if bumped down in priority would free up some resources. Though Comcast is a poorly designed network. Poorly designed networks can't be easily fixed.
The size of Comcasts network is huge. To say the whole network is poorly designed is flawed. I can say the network in my area is exceptional. I got equal service with Comcast compared to SBC DSL. I can say there are areas of the network which are horrible.

The problem is the sheer size of the network. That and the fact that Comcast doesn't have the personel to fix the problem in a timely fashion. Money probably has something to do with it as well. Lastly, you have the corporation itself where the wheels turn very slowly.
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DaveNJ
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reply to PhoenixDown
I support QOS, not 2 tier. If i am sending traffic, it should be handled the best way possible. VOIP should have a higher priorty. They need to sell QOS not 2 tier. But wait a minute, that what the consumer would want anyway......

bogey780

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reply to PhoenixDown
Tiering would actually probably ease their network lag overall. There's probably a lot of latency irrelevent data moving across the network that if bumped down in priority would free up some resources. Though Comcast is a poorly designed network. Poorly designed networks can't be easily fixed.


kamm

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said by PhoenixDown See Profile :

Because companies like Vonage should have to pay to be placed on an oversold network.

But now, really, would a 2 tier net mean that vonage and voip calls go through okay and non-voip or premium users get to suffer yet more lag?
Exactly this is why WE SHOULD NOT SUPPORT ANY TIERING EVER.


PhoenixDown
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Because companies like Vonage should have to pay to be placed on an oversold network.

But now, really, would a 2 tier net mean that vonage and voip calls go through okay and non-voip or premium users get to suffer yet more lag?
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