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shaner
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

Yeah, but its Toronto Hydro. Wake me up when it really happens.

Its not Rogers Wireless which will feel the effects of this, its Rogers cable internet. And sympatico, and any other earth bound ISP. I have no problem with muni wifi, Toronto Hydro had better be forced to allow competitors to use their network, like any other incumbant ISP in the country.
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shaner
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

I love how the article always states how it's the wireless carriers who will be most affected by this. That's not true. The majority of wireless data applications are in remote(ish) areas. Most urban settings will have land based internet, so it's the Sympaticos' and Rogers HiSpeeds of the world which will feel the pinch. But wirelessly, not so much.

Our biggest wireless data customers in Alberta are in the oil patch and travel throughout the province.
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

said by shaner See Profile :

I love how the article always states how it's the wireless carriers who will be most affected by this. That's not true. The majority of wireless data applications are in remote(ish) areas. Most urban settings will have land based internet, so it's the Sympaticos' and Rogers HiSpeeds of the world which will feel the pinch. But wirelessly, not so much.

Our biggest wireless data customers in Alberta are in the oil patch and travel throughout the province.
Bell, Rogers, Telus, all offer wireless internet via their wireless network. Business people use this often, while they're on the go (lunch break at a coffee shop and stuff). By Toronto being fully wifi enabled of course, they will suffer the most. If Wifi is $20, and Bell/Fido/Rogers/Telus is $100 per month...

Since wireless carriers bill by the amount of data transfered (esp. Rogers, Fido, Telus), they will make much less profit.
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shaner
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

Not true. Urban users are more likely to already be using WiFi. In fact, if people are using their laptops in Toronto while sucking back their Vente Mocha Latte's, chances are they're already using Bell WiFi.
»www.bbwexchange.com/publications···4890.asp

Once again, the vast majority of Wireless Data users right now are using that service in more remote areas.

That being said, EvDo is popular among corporate clients in urban areas because the coverage is far more reliable than WiFi. Remember, these power users don't care nearly as much about price as they do about reliability. So, unless Toronto Hydro's coverage can match the cellular networks, Hydro isn't going to cut into the wireless company's customer base at all.

Now, regular residential broadband is a different story, and that's where Hydro's plan will have the most effect.
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

said by shaner See Profile :

Now, regular residential broadband is a different story, and that's where Hydro's plan will have the most effect.
You'd have to be fairly dumb to give up a safer & faster wired connection for an unsafer slower wireless one.
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mr weather
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

I don't think it's about giving up a faster wired connection as much as it's about offering access to people who've never had it or have been stuck on dial-up.

Toronto Hydro WiFi could be $10 a month but I'm still not giving up my Sympatico line.

Clearly the original intent of all of this is to allow command and control of their smart meters. If they can sell Internet access as well I say go for it.
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

said by mr weather See Profile :

Clearly the original intent of all of this is to allow command and control of their smart meters.
Don't the smart meters use cellular for access? Thats what I read somewhere.
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shaner
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said by mordin See Profile :

said by shaner See Profile :

Now, regular residential broadband is a different story, and that's where Hydro's plan will have the most effect.
You'd have to be fairly dumb to give up a safer & faster wired connection for an unsafer slower wireless one.
The limits of people's cheapness knows no bounds. However, you're right, I cant see that many people giving up their stable home connection for WiFi.
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Re: Toronto Hydro to offer city-wide wireless

said by shaner See Profile :

The limits of people's cheapness knows no bounds. However, you're right, I cant see that many people giving up their stable home connection for WiFi.
.....and then complaining that it isn't as fast / reliable / dependable or has "speed issues" and demanding a refund.
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