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amungus
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how 'bout that...

that's funny stuff... all of 1/2 an hour, ha. Still, that's better than the 10 minutes or so that they say a windows box is automatically compromised with spyware/virus' etc...

I would also say that osx is still a little better off security wise because of how it's set up initially.

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Who says what?

All of those studies are done on a Windows XP SP1 or less machine.

Considering the advances in said OS those studies are a moot point.


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that's funny stuff... all of 1/2 an hour, ha. Still, that's better than the 10 minutes or so that they say a windows box is automatically compromised with spyware/virus' etc...
Putting out the challenge was pretty funny. It almost guarantees a successful attack will be launched. Anonymity is one of the best ways to maintain security. Begging to be hacked is one of the worst. As MAC systems become more widespread, the chance of widespread attacks grows.
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rgillis70
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Actually - there was a NAT challenge in the Security forum - the last step of which was to take a SP2 Windows box and stick it online. It was not hacked.

Proof is in the pudding - with the SP2 firewall on - the machine fared just as well as sitting behind a router.

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Giving you the specious "10 minute" figure, that would be with thousands of script kiddies and other malevolent types banging away at it. This was one guy, who did it in a documented 30.

If the Mac folks continue to bury their heads in the sand it's going to bite them in the ass, hard.
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yea ive allways wondered about some of these time figures, i mean i for years didnt know much about securing my OS and never had an issue. i also never gave anyone a reason to snoop at my IP and i avoid questionable sites. course nowdays im a patch-a-holic.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Putting out the challenge was pretty funny. It almost guarantees a successful attack will be launched.
Not true. A few years ago, before Apple switched to using a BSD-based system, there was a "hack the mac" competition that ran for a long time and was never hacked into. There was a decent cash reward for the victor too.


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Giving you the specious "10 minute" figure, that would be with thousands of script kiddies and other malevolent types banging away at it. This was one guy, who did it in a documented 30.

If the Mac folks continue to bury their heads in the sand it's going to bite them in the ass, hard.
Its still going to be either Bush's fault or Microsoft's fault in the end.

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...As MAC systems become more widespread, the chance of widespread attacks grows.
It's actually "Mac" not "MAC". MAC refers to Media Access Control. Two completely different things.

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raythompsontn

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Putting out the challenge was pretty funny. It almost guarantees a successful attack will be launched.
Not true. A few years ago, before Apple switched to using a BSD-based system, there was a "hack the mac" competition that ran for a long time and was never hacked into. There was a decent cash reward for the victor too.
Who ran the contest? Apple? If Apple ran the contest and their product was found to be flawed would they announce it? Nope. They just got free security testing. And no one is the wiser.


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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Putting out the challenge was pretty funny. It almost guarantees a successful attack will be launched.
Not true. A few years ago, before Apple switched to using a BSD-based system, there was a "hack the mac" competition that ran for a long time and was never hacked into. There was a decent cash reward for the victor too.
Of course they were probably smart enough to not have ssh enabled, open to any IP and using password auth. This could be a "Linux Hack" contest. Pretty much any unix where you leave the front door open like that will be owned.
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I blame the Republicans. Raising taxes caused this, somehow. That or Microsoft's Monopoly. Either way, Macs are unhackable.
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Why does someone always have to say this? People were not confused between the two above. Sheesh.
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