djrobx
join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA | reply to JamesTree
Re: I say go for it
Exactly. When Ma Bell was broken up there was pretty much only one way to place a phone call. That's absolutely not the case any longer.
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TelecomJunky
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join:2005-12-12
Kansas City, MO
| said by djrobx  :Exactly. When Ma Bell was broken up there was pretty much only one way to place a phone call. That's absolutely not the case any longer. Do you really? Ok you could use cellular. Oh wait, Verizon is owned by Verizon and Cingular is owned by AT&T. Those are the same companies as your local phone. Just because you move your $50 to cells instead of local phone doesn't mean the same company isn't getting it.
VoIP, although a viable alternative in the future is hampered. Can you keep your DSL and dump your local phone? Not in most areas, and even though the FCC has mandated some naked DSL, it only did so for a small 2 year period. So that leaves you with the only other option for broadband access and that's cable.
There are no choices. How do you not see that?
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| I guess Sprint/Nextel, T-Mobile and Virgin doesn't exist? Or did you not know about the other providers?
As for VoIP, I will NEVER consider them a viable choice. Since those providers are nothing more than internet appliances and those options can't control ANY LEVEL of quality on their services, they can't be considered in the big game of things unless government cares to step in and label them a serious option and regulate packet quality for those services. Until then, they can't be put into the mix. They also have to go through one of the two main players - CABLE or DSL which are the two players in phone.
Sure, there are cell phones, but at this point and time, land lines still dominate the field and we are talking about home phone service - not mobile celluar that people somehow seem to put into the same category. (For the record, if cellular service is such an option at home, please tell me why so many of my friends that have cellular as their only home phone have to leave their lower level in their house and go up stairs to make their calls.) |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
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said by TelecomJunky :said by djrobx :Exactly. When Ma Bell was broken up there was pretty much only one way to place a phone call. That's absolutely not the case any longer. Do you really? Ok you could use cellular. Oh wait, Verizon is owned by Verizon and Cingular is owned by AT&T. Those are the same companies as your local phone. Just because you move your $50 to cells instead of local phone doesn't mean the same company isn't getting it. VoIP, although a viable alternative in the future is hampered. Can you keep your DSL and dump your local phone? Not in most areas, and even though the FCC has mandated some naked DSL, it only did so for a small 2 year period. So that leaves you with the only other option for broadband access and that's cable. There are no choices. How do you not see that? You are incorrect. Verizon wireless is owned by Vodafone, NOT Verizon. While Verizon does own a non-controlling portion of Verizon Wireless, the two are completely independent. As for VoIP, you do not need naked DSL or even "regular" DSL to use it. The largest VoIP provider in the US is not even a telco at all, it is Time Warner; a cable company. We have more choices now than ever before. To say otherwise is silly and uninformed!
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
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said by TelecomJunky :said by djrobx :Exactly. When Ma Bell was broken up there was pretty much only one way to place a phone call. That's absolutely not the case any longer. Do you really? Ok you could use cellular. Oh wait, Verizon is owned by Verizon and Cingular is owned by AT&T. Those are the same companies as your local phone. Just because you move your $50 to cells instead of local phone doesn't mean the same company isn't getting it. VoIP, although a viable alternative in the future is hampered. Can you keep your DSL and dump your local phone? Not in most areas, and even though the FCC has mandated some naked DSL, it only did so for a small 2 year period. So that leaves you with the only other option for broadband access and that's cable. There are no choices. How do you not see that? No choices???? Cummon man, get a grip. As much as you love to say it, there are no monopolies in voice, TV, or internet. In fact, there are multiple choices for each-
Voice:
1. Tmobile
2. Cricket Wireless
3. Nextel
4. Cingular
5. Verizon Wireless
6. Sprint
7. Slews of VOIP providers
8. Cable company voice offerings (aka digital voice)
Internet:
1. Clearwire Wireless »www.clearwire.com
2. Cable Internet
3. Directway
4. DSL
TV:
1. Satellite (2 providers)
2. OTA / free
3. Cable
4. Emerging IPTV offerings by telcos / Verizon FIOS
5. Emerging TV services over the internet still in their infancy
Definition of monopoly: In economics, a monopoly (from the Greek monos, one + polein, to sell) is defined as a persistent market situation where there is only one provider of a kind of product or service. Monopolies are characterized by a lack of economic competition for the good or service that they provide and a lack of viable substitute goods. source: »en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
By definition, there are no monopolies in these industries, period. |
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rreola86
join:2005-08-01
Sanger, CA | reply to wifi4milez
Wrong. The Cellco Partnership (dba Verizon Wireless) is jointly owned by Verizon (55%, as in THEY DO control it) and Vodafone PLC (45%). |
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