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amungus
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Re: crooks

ok, you got him. both of you must have a bit more knowledge than I... either way, agreed that it's greed.

didn't even consider internet2, yeah, they've been toying with that for quite some time...

...your first "Outright lie!" ...don't real time packets need low latency/fast access??? perhaps not qos, as we're arguing here in this thread, but do they not need the low latency? I always thought that was the point of having high speed internet, that it was also supposed to be low latency...

that's where my thought of them (shaw, or any isp) upgrading equipment comes in... for what purpose again??? oh yeah, so people could benefit from faster, lower latency network access...

let the neutrality wars begin.
I would bet on gamers to weigh in on this more and more as they begin to realize that these things could also affect them more... I play some online games, barely, but when I do, I expect them to work. Many isp's have touted their services as being fit for such things... suddenly they aren't??????? ooops.

shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA

Actually end to end delay can be higher than most expect. Can be up to As long as the stream is consistent then the call will sound fine. What is more detrimental to the conversation is jitter, when the response time fluctuates. Another factor is packet loss (dropped data packets). Depending on the codec used (g711, g729) some lost packets can be corrected in the stream via error detection/correction mechanisms.

This link provides all sorts of technical information regarding this: »www.voiptroubleshooter.com/indep···ces.html
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