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justbits
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The cost...

One thing to consider is that if the Video over IP is provided by your Internet provider, such as BellSouth, BellSouth is likely not paying any bandwidth costs for data that originates and stays completely within their own network. Now, if you start downloading all your Video over IP from a non-BellSouth provided Video over IP service, the enduser is going to be causing BellSouth to pay higher bandwidth fees due to their Internet peering agreements.

--justbits


phathead296
Got Slack?

join:2001-11-09
Charleston, SC

You said it first, and I 100% agree. The article is comparing data costs for data over the Internet to data costs within their network.

It's like me saying my DSL costs my $5 per gigabyte (~ 10GB/month, $50 DSL), and since I transfer 100GB of data on my home LAN each month, that costs me $500. Flawed comparison. My LAN architecture is in place and all I pay to transfer data is the electricity to power the switches.

All BS (AT&T) has to do is lay a fat pipe to my house and start offering IPTV. Once they have the shows on their network and the infrastructure is in place, it doesn't cost them any more to distribute it to me and hundreds of other IPTV users.

Now, if we were all downloading IPTV over the Internet, it would be a different story.
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fiberguy
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reply to justbits
Well, there is a cost - at first - as they have to invest in the equipment, however, that cost, with consumer signups, quickly becomes nothing. But you are correct. They aren't purchasing anything from other providers to transfer proprietairy services over their own network.

bmn
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reply to justbits
Exectly... These numbers are highly suspect becuase the 1 Terabyte number seems to be based on the same cost per gigabyte as regular internet traffic. The costs, however, of bandwidth across a privately owned network are much lower since you essentially are only paying equipment and maintenance costs on the circuits, not transport costs.

I'm guessing the costs to Bellsouth to provide HD content for their end users would be half of what they are quoting here, if even that much.
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RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to phathead296
said by phathead296 See Profile :

All BS (AT&T) has to do is lay a fat pipe to my house and start offering IPTV. Once they have the shows on their network and the infrastructure is in place, it doesn't cost them any more to distribute it to me and hundreds of other IPTV users.
Note: You have to distinguish IPTV of shows AS they are being aired over the air/cable [where everyone is seeing the same thing at the same time] and VOD (Video on Demand) [where each user has their own private transmission]. With the former, you can go with Multi-Cast where there is only ONE TCP/IP session going over the network and the user's modem is listening to it (so the bandwidth usage is the same as only one user). With VOD, each user has their own private session so the load is much more.

Basically with Multi-Cast, the transmission is made once to each leg of the network (so long as at least one user on the leg is asking to see the transmission). With a Non-Multi-Cast setup (VOD or not), each user has their own session eating up bandwidth EVEN THOUGH, each session has the same content.


phathead296
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Charleston, SC

Yes, you do have to make that distinction, but all that traffic is still within the BS network. The $1 for 2 GB seems to be BS cost for Internet traffic, not traffic on their network. Once the infrastructure is in place, there is virtually no ongoing cost of supplying the data to homes--multicast or non-multicast.

That, of course, assumes you put in enough capacity to begin with, which is a huge initial investment.
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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to RARPSL
Maybe I missed something or I am just stupid to all this IPTV stuff, but who said any of IPTV was going through the internet anyway?

It is my understanding that the phone companies will get their TV the same way cable does and the only difference is that it will be delivered through an IP transport to the set top box. Am I wrong on this?
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