Trevorm7
join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL
| [net] 60/5?
From what was said here: »www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?t=59212
"The Verizon Tech also mentioned that they would be doing away with the 5/2 internet package. The 15/2 will be the entry level package and the price will go down to what the 5/2 is. The 30/5 will be the second package and he believed it would go the current 15/2 price. He said they would be adding a 60/5 package for their high end package."
Can anyone confirm this? Is this true? If it's true than when? |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ | Or more to add to this rumor..
»VA - Verizon Rumor, can someone confirm? |
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Jackie_Chan
join:2003-01-05 | When will we get 60/60 ?  Gotta keep OOL on its toes. |
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Jackie_Chan
join:2003-01-05 | BTW does this mean that current 30/5 users will get upgraded to 60Mb for no extra charge? |
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Trevorm7
join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL | yep, and the people with 5/2 will go to 15/2 and people with 15/2 will get 30/5 |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | reply to Trevorm7
that would be dumb and useless, it's probably really hard to find servers to even max 30mbit.
If they were going to add a faster package it should be like 30/8 or 30/10 or something.
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GeekNJ
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join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
| First off, I think this is all rumors.
As for a single server maxing out 30mb, I think that's not really the reason for more bandwidth now. It has to do with multiple simultaneous users and multiple applications. Browsing the internet is hardly differentiated between a 1.5mb DSL and a 30mb FIOS connection. Same for email. Add in streaming video, music, browsing, uploading, etc and that's where the higher caps make sense.
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Trevorm7
join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL
| I can tell a big difference with 1.5mb dsl and 5mb cable, especially while I'm, downloading a file and surfing at the same time. I remember when I was downloading with dsl it was a pain to surf at the same time. Then I got 5mb cable and it was better than got 10mb cable and was uber better and then went back to 5mb and it was horrible because someone else in the house was gobbling all the upload speed and then they upgraded us to 7mb and I use that now. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
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March 11th, @09:44PM
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said by GeekNJ  :First off, I think this is all rumors. As for a single server maxing out 30mb, I think that's not really the reason for more bandwidth now. It has to do with multiple simultaneous users and multiple applications. Browsing the internet is hardly differentiated between a 1.5mb DSL and a 30mb FIOS connection. Same for email. Add in streaming video, music, browsing, uploading, etc and that's where the higher caps make sense. even multiple users, 30mbps is more than enough for everyone to stream videos and play games simultaneously. Even 15mbps is enough for 3 or 4 people to stream videos and play games at the same time, most streaming videos are not even over 1000kbps, and most games barely use any bandwidth at all. Edit: and if 3 or 4 people in your home are playing online at the same time frequently then you should kick their ass and make them go outside for awhile.. lol
Now it might make sense if this type of service were to goto businesses and schools (if Verizon would install FIOS to such places).
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | For those institutions they have their business level tiers. Those places need dedicated connections. |
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Trevorm7
join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL
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"most streaming videos are not even over 1000kbps, and most games barely use any bandwidth at all."
The only reason why it's like that is because alot of people don't have much bandwidth, so at first there may not be many reasons but when alot of people have the bandwidth there will be applications to use it.
Meanwhile have fun downloading alot simultaneously without slowing down. |
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acrufox
join:2004-07-14
Canada
| After all the contacts I have made in resolving my issues. Please stop the rumor mill, there will be no package changes in 2006. Comcast can barely keep up as it is, especially on their upstream.
Verizon will only introduce such rumors when they choose to quash Comcast. As of right now they are more focused of getting new cities lit up and TV franchising. Anything Verizon offers to date will equal that of Comcast or slightly surpass it.
All these new tiers are RUMOR and SPECULATION. Verizon isn't going to implement new tiers when they haven't even established themselves in some states. |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| I agree, as noted previously, it's all rumors right now.
Verizon has lowered FIOS in parts of NY (and I think in parts of another state) offering their 30/5 package for $55.
Also, there are other ISPs that Verizon needs to compete against such as Cablevision which offers 15/2 for the same cost as Verizon does and 30/2 for $10 more/mo.
Maybe Verizon will go with regional pricing to compete as appropriate or maybe they will try and stay with a common cost across all their markets. We'll have to see how it pans out.
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johnsp
join:2001-02-07
Syosset, NY | reply to Trevorm7
The 5/2 package is probably a problem for their VOD and PPV downloads while you're using the internet. Probably cheaper to just give you the bandwidth then provide a real router with better QoS functionality. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | reply to Vamp
Use a download accelerator something like GetRight. Puts flame shield up. |
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA | reply to johnsp
They give you an extra burst of speed dedicated to TV service when using VOD and PPV, I believe.
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trey_w
join:2002-07-03
Wylie, TX | Your correct. They do this with all tiers. |
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floatingideas
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Yes, Verizon must be floating ideas about new speed packages. To compete with OOL's offerings. There have been rumblings from customers about triple-play and how 15/2 from VZ just isn't as good a bargain anymore.
Personally, I'd like to see a 15(or 20?)/5 package be the "entry level" for $15 with speeds going up to 100/100 or as close to that number as possible. If the speeds do top off at 60 megabits, then why not multiples? 20, 40, 60?
Depending on the speed/price point, I and others would probably opt of the 'middle package' this year, as it fits in our current budget for internet ($45 when bundled with phone). So a *boost* to 20, 40 or 60 megabits sometime around June (my birthday month) would do nicely to coincide with the completed Cablevision network upgrades. Don't forget they are supposed to be ramping out those 50 megabit plans with proprietary modems.
Now that Verizon kicked the ball down the road a bit (maximizing subscriber growth with return on investment), this can only get a company so far. People need to have a reason to demand those speeds. As far back as 6-7 years ago, anything above 10 megabits on the internet was only affordable by large corporate wan/lans and carried a HUGE pricetag (most links were on dedicated copper/fiber and I won't even get into how much it cost to deploy infrastructure--making Mr. Ka-Ching RBOCS a fortune). As we approach 100/100 megabits (or anything over 50/50) someone better start capitalizing on the *content* people will demand, or the already teeming underworld will take over at the expense of cable-tv (testicles of the entertainment industry). Applications and content are good reasons, but thats just the beginning.
Verizon needs mold a "VISION" of why bandwidth is important to customers and more is better. My guess is ISPS will have to come to the conclusion that they will be in the "content-distribution business" very soon.. or mpaa lawyer types will drag them along kicking and screaming (hint-hint AT&T/BELLSOUTH). It's quite possible that the more megabits per dollar will amount to the "internet mutitasker's wet-dream" much in the same way computer processors get marketed to you as the: be more productive, for every purpose-there is a solution, etc. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD
·Verizon FIOS
| 100mbit, I dont see upload speeds going anywhere near that anytime soon, We just don't have the technology to support it, it wouldn't take many people to completely consume all the network bandwidth. Unless Verizon plans to run on multiple OC48's or OC192 and put caps and limitations on how long someone can use the upload.
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| Seems like that kind of bandwidth would congest the rest of the net seeing as how some universities and big businesses don't even have 100/100. All of a sudden millions of people have those kinds of speeds and the net has been completely redifined in terms of load. 100/100 would be good if we could get it within Verizon's own network to facilitate fast transfers between Verizon-Verizon customers. 100/100 is pretty useless for now though. I think a 20 megabit upload would be more than enough for even the most intense users around. |
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