Edrick
Premium
join:2004-09-11
Orlando, FL
| reply to Trevorm7
Re: [net] 60/5?
It's possible for the network medium to support it being the fiber but the equiptment on each end is another thing although it can support what like 622 Mbps or something like that? But then the issue is the Internet Backend and filling that up. How ever it would be possible as aren't they doing that in like Japan?
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY | Your gigabit bandwidth doesnt leave japan, do a speed test to a US or Euro speed tester. Your gigabit only works to other japan gigabit users, P2P as fast as your HD can write and remote internet file storage or whole computer backup. |
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Cjaiceman
Premium,MVM
join:2004-10-12
Parker, CO
 ·Comcast Workplace
·Comcast
| It will be interesting to see if FISION will be able to support their 100/100 connections...
Base speed internet for FISION is 10/10, then move to 25/25, then 50/50, then 75/57 and 100/100...
Website:
»www.4fiber.tv
People in Houston are very lucky if they can get those kinds of speeds... |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | reply to patcat88
What is the point of Gigabit in Japan anyway if hard drives in raid arrays in most home users pcs can't even reach those speeds. |
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mumixam
join:2004-08-10 | reply to Trevorm7
1000/8 is 125MB/sec most raid 0's have around 180MB/sec brust 100 avg |
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sdgthy
@optonline.net
| reply to Edrick
What they are doing in Japan is EPON, yeah it's Gig-E, but it's shared, the odds of ever seeing the max speed are slim. That's the fact many overlook when they claim places like Japan are far ahead in offering "higher" speeds.
To apply the same logic here, DOCSIS 1 cable systems here offer 30/5(?) and FiOS offers 622/155. |
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PGHammer
join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to Vamp
The problem isn't (and never has been) the intra-network bandwidth. Besides, as part of the FTTP upgrade, VZ is also upgrading the inter-CO trunking to, *at minimum*, OC-192 (over fiber, of course), and going *much higher* (in places like NYC or Washington, DC). Intra-VZ bandwidth isn't the issue. The problem is bandwidth *not under VZ control*. |
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retsam
join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ | ummm last time i checked there really isnt much faster then oc 192. unless you mean they are agregating between multiple oc192's. |
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eco
Premium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE
| reply to Vamp
said by Vamp  :that would be dumb and useless, it's probably really hard to find servers to even max 30mbit. Yet Ferrari still makes a killing selling 200MPH cars here in the US even though there are no roads with speed limits higher than 80MPH. |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY
| Yey another car analogy... To the poster who said 30 mbit is useless: If you have multiple people in your home it is very useful. Whenever I download at 5/6 my max speed my ping shoots up in multiplayer games online. I don't think it is the ack packets either. My speed is 5/384. Usenet can certainly accomodate such a large pipe. You can also be downloading alot of things simultaeniously at high speeds all around. |
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Vamp
5c077
Premium
join:2003-01-28
MD | Well with adequate upload speed, the pings shouldn't start going up when downloading, unless you are really consuming it like crazy. |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | Thing is when I use half my upload on regular uploading (like 20 KB/sec everything is fine anything higher fluctuates my ping) I don't get the ping issue, but when I download and use the upload half as ack packets I start to see pings rise. |
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Jackie_Chan
join:2003-01-05 | 30Mb is far from useless  I use all 30Mb of it quite easily. |
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druber
join:2000-04-11
Marlborough, MA | reply to grandpinaple
are you running some kind of QoS router? if so, it's very common for them to prioritize ACK packets, so the behavior you describe makes sense... |
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA
| reply to Jackie_Chan
Legally is a better way of putting it. As I say many times, there are not many ways for single individuals to use 30/5 legally. There are some ways (VOIP, multiple servers, etc), and definitely for corporations, but the average user has P2P and..what?
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PGHammer
join:2003-06-09
Accokeek, MD
clubs:
·Comcast
| reply to retsam
said by retsam :ummm last time i checked there really isnt much faster then oc 192. unless you mean they are agregating between multiple oc192's. That is indeed what I was referring to for the inter-CO trunking (usually SONET over fiber-based ATM as the aggregating technology, because it's CENTREX-friendly, because VZ *still* sells a lot of business CENTREX). Even with fiber, CENTREX isn't going away. |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | reply to Insder
Seems like the legality issue is just another reason innovation is stifled to some extent in this country. |
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Trevorm7
join:2005-01-17
Clearwater, FL
| reply to Insder
said by Insder :Legally is a better way of putting it. As I say many times, there are not many ways for single individuals to use 30/5 legally. There are some ways (VOIP, multiple servers, etc), and definitely for corporations, but the average user has P2P and..what? Um, thats not true. P2P does not have to be ilegal, ethical people shouldn't be punished with slow speed because people are always using P2P for ilegal crap.
Plus slow speeds will not stop or help ilegal downloading. |
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use_ssh
Premium
join:2005-11-16
Reston, VA
| reply to Insder
said by Insder :Legally is a better way of putting it. As I say many times, there are not many ways for single individuals to use 30/5 legally. There are some ways (VOIP, multiple servers, etc), and definitely for corporations, but the average user has P2P and..what? Here's a way to use the 30/5 connection: any time you want to send or receive a large file. File sizes are only growing.
Anyone who has played the dial-up waiting game while trying to send large pictures to grandma and grandpa can appreciate a shorter upload time.
U_S |
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA
| Large pictures as in 3 megabytes? That's the max for a consumer level camera. Now, honestly, my 90 kb/sec upload takes care of that perfectly. And I state P2P in the obvious illegal sense. Not everyone in the world leaves linux/bsd torrents uploading all day (some do, good for you! More to you!), and you know this. Don't come back at me telling me P2P is legal, because a good chunk of it is illegal materials.
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