allthisfuss
| reply to Trevorm7
60/5 is moot. Think 100/100
Look, just keep the kiddie pron off the net, and everything will work itself out...
More speed to the home is necessary for VZ to keep their "nuclear" option on the table with cable-companies. Which is to say, if you increase bandwidth so high (aka 100megabits+) then you can virutally make cable-tv irrelevant in just a few short years.
If telecommincations have a conflict of interest with copyright holders'... too bad, get over it, you lost way back in betamax days (late 70's) and BLUE RAY DVD will be as microwaved, sauteed and deep fried away from copy protection as those vhs tapes even through macrovision, etc. Gigabit-capable Optical Network upgrades are a fact for Verizon. These are already in the pipeline, and any debate on this pre-order is moot, just a question of when origial BPON's get swapped for GPON's (655/155, to 2.5+/1.25+). Verizon can't be too concerned what customers do with their broadband.. especially if they can't get marketshare from cable-tv. Turabout is fair play because startups and cable companies are eating away at phone revenue with voip. If phone revenue comes back via 100 megabit data pipes to the home via fiber (relatively untaxed at this ponit).. all the better. Don't forget, there's a cable company (in the heart of VZ land) working to migrate to 100/100 megabits at this point. In about 12 weeks this is the new reality for a Verizon competitor (google, or bbr search: Cablevision and Narad Networks).
P.S. The great myth about copyrighted works: most people won't pay for REALLY GOOD content, if they can get it for free. Wrong. Otherwise, you'd see entertainment companies filing for bankrupcy like the airlines, simple fact-- you don't. |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | reply to Trevorm7
Re: [net] 60/5?
Some people are a little self indulged if they think Verizon would raise speeds for them at the risk of slowing down deployment. |
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kday
join:2005-04-20
Southlake, TX
| reply to Trevorm7
All raising speeds is a Verizon tech sitting at a server terminal and manipulating a few numbers. In my opinion, Verizon has Plenty of bandwidth to offer even 100mbps/100mbps if they wanted to. Upping speeds will not slow down deployment as the the infrastructure is already prepared for the future. |
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kday
join:2005-04-20
Southlake, TX
| reply to Trevorm7
Setting 100/100 for the same price as the current 15/2 might actually be a good business move for verizon. Hell, half of Europe now has 100/100 as standard internet service. China and Japan now have 1 gbps internet for less than $40 a month. It would take cable companies years to catch up, and verizon will become dominant and set a new standard for the internet. There is no reason that we should be stuck at such low speeds here in the U.S. |
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Insder
There never was a second I in my name
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Salem, MA | 1gbps shared, read up on it man. And most of Europe DOES NOT have 100/100, it's all ADSL2 over there.
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kday
join:2005-04-20
Southlake, TX | look up Sweden |
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grandpinaple
join:2006-01-03
New York, NY | Because Sweden is clearly all of Europe. |
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majortom1981
join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY | reply to Trevorm7
why would they raise speeds when they don't even have the networ rolled out everywhere yet. Shouldn't you wait and see what your networ could do before raising the speeds? |
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mbadur
join:2005-11-03
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1)I attached the mci backbone of the internet. I'm not sure if it could even support 100/100 for alot of people. You can argue over that.
2)I dont know if there is alot of legal use for a 100/100 unless you are sharing the connection. You could argue p2p but how much of it is there that is legal and worth downloading. What they should do is partner with google or make there own equivalent of google base that could actually use the speed. Im not sure, so if im really wrong you can just tell me
Im not sure how to attach but heres the link
»www.nthelp.com/images/uunet.pdf |
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chrispix
join:2004-08-25
Rowlett, TX
| reply to Trevorm7
Many people (adults) with the high speed could probably use it to (as some one else posted) connect to their work VPN's just as fast as being in the office. Immagine being able to work from home just as if you were in the office. It might make telecommuting more plausable. Anyway, some other people certainly host websites/VOIP etc on there. Playing games, downloading patches (i.e. windows service packs!)
Think how big the Service packs will be for Vista! |
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Sharps97
join:2006-02-09
Glen Mills, PA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to mbadur
Wow, I can't believe how little bandwidth there is behind MCI's backbone. I mean, a small handful of Verizon FIOS users could saturate the entire backbone through most parts of the country with very little problem using either the 15 Mb or the 30 Mb packages. It would be absolutely frightening to think of what would happen if Verizon actually had faster tiers available!
I can only imagine how much it will cost Verizon to rewire most of its backbone to handle just their own group of FIOS users. Eventually Verizon could have one of the largest, most powerful backbones in the world. I wonder if they will need some type of proxy system in place to actually provide the bandwidth the rest of the internet will not be able to, LOL. |
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retsam
join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ | reply to Trevorm7
you guys need to start reading or comprehending...that map is from June of 2000...6 years old... |
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chrispix
join:2004-08-25
Rowlett, TX
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As far as Fiber goes, there usually is little to rewire. Typically they have lots of strands running along their backbone that are unlit, its just a matter of adding equipment on either end. If they don't have any unlit, its a matter of just replacing some hard ware on either end. And that map is from 2000 :P |
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Sharps97
join:2006-02-09
Glen Mills, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| Good catch on the date. I wonder if there are any updates available. I'm curious to see what various companies are capable of providing, although given competition, I wonder if they even release these any more (might give the competition a little too much insight into deployment capabilities). |
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loeakaodas
join:2005-01-31
Sarasota, FL
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said by retsam  :ummm last time i checked there really isnt much faster then oc 192. unless you mean they are agregating between multiple oc192's. I don't know if this is what you meant, but there are faster things then OC-192, but I'm not sure if they are deployed or not.
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_Carrier |
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TheOtherPete
join:2001-06-28
Boyds, MD | Qwest map from Oct 2005
»www.qwest.com/about/qwest/network/ |
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GeekNJ
Premium
join:2000-09-23
Waldwick, NJ | reply to Trevorm7
So when am I getting all this additional bandwidth for the same price? |
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retsam
join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ
| reply to loeakaodas
i know there are "other" OC standards but do yourself a favor and try to go and find an OC 256 line card or transceiver...IM not trying to bash you...but i just haven't seen an OC 256 in action for long haul fiber deployed in a WAN environment but i could be wrong.. |
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retsam
join:2004-09-02
Red Bank, NJ
1 edit | »www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5···p1026246
if you look at the oc768 interface its a short reach.. |
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SuperG03
Premium
join:2004-01-26
00000
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This is a very recent map of the North American Internet backbone, including 134,855 routers, colored by telecom company (Verizon, AT&T, Qwest, Level 3, Sprint Nextel, cable companies, smaller players).
See Attachment.
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