jbob
Reach Out and Touch Someone
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join:2004-04-26
Little Rock, AR | reply to mario620
Re: Notice of Claim of Copyright Infringement
Kaltes brings up a good point in this case. Why is "Will and Grace" an issue? It is a show broadcast over free tv airwaves. It's not like this is a movie or a for fee event. Is it an issue simply because it is void of commercials? |
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bigpoppa206
join:2005-03-29
Seattle, WA
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Well, you are wrong, they are not 'free' TV airwaves. That program is owned by someone and they have the right to say how it is viewed or broadcast. Now they already allow you the option to record it yourself by a VCR or DVR for your personal use, but that does not automatically allow you to get a copy through a P2P network. Delete the file and that's the end of it. Also, learn how to use the newsgroups as a previous poster mentioned. |
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mdmaddox
Premium
join:2002-12-29
Federal Way, WA | I have just one point when you say
"Now they already allow you the option to record it yourself by a VCR or DVR for your personal use"
Does They = Program owners?
or does They = The U.S. Court System?
My vote is with the Court. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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said by bigpoppa206  :but that does not automatically allow you to get a copy through a P2P network. Change "get" to "distribute" and I'll agree with you on that point.
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gallowsroad
join:2004-08-09
Tulsa, OK
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said by bigpoppa206 :Well, you are wrong, they are not 'free' TV airwaves. In fact, they are. The public, in the form of government, grants license for broadcast companies to use those airwaves, but they most certainly cannot claim any ownership.
Content is another matter.
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Too many cameras and not enough food - this is what we've seen. |
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quatra
Premium
join:2003-06-22
Matthews, NC
 ·magicjack.com
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to samkaye
Eventually they'll get to newsgroup users as well. Everything can be tracked. Terrorists probably use newsgroups therefore all newsgroup users should be drawn and quartered. I wish they would spend their money on developing better legal ways to access their copyrighted materials. |
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mario620
join:2003-06-27
Los Angeles, CA
| reply to Kaltes
Re: No big deal, idle threats
said by J D McDorce : ISPs (in this case, Comcast) are bound by the DMCA to provide notification to their customers should the copyright holder (or their agent) report alleged infringements of their works. No, they are not. They are required to give the user notice when they receive a subpoena from the copyright holder requesting their customer's identity. If you don't want them to get your identity, you can send a counter-notice. Otherwise, they get it.
Sending the counter notice is the one thing left in my mind. If I send the notice and state that I have deleted the file. I don't want to put myself in that hole. So I really don't know what to do in that case. Also can my isp scan my hard drive for other stuff? I have deleted everything that I can think of that could link me to more trouble. |
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USA Zombie
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join:2002-08-22
Seattle, WA | reply to mario620
Re: Notice of Claim of Copyright Infringement
After looking at the first post it seems to me the person was running a tracker. |
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thender2
Glamour Profession
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join:2004-05-16
Staten Island, NY | reply to mario620
said by mario620 :
What should I do about it?
Learn how to use usenet and IRC.  |
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mark_y_k
join:2004-06-30
Pound, VA
| reply to Kaltes
Re: No big deal, idle threats
I don't know about comcast but Adelphia will give you a warning and the 2nd time you get complained on they will disconnect you i know 2 people i work with who were kicked off Adelphia for copyright infringement so if you have other choices for isp's don't worry about it |
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Clever Name
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join:2005-05-06
Davenport, IA
| reply to mario620
Re: Notice of Claim of Copyright Infringement
I think owning a wireless router and claiming you're too ignorant to secure it properly would be a fairly good alibi. Some VERY evil copyright infringer must have hijacked my wireless connection and downloaded that horrible tv show.  |
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MrRuckus
join:2004-01-30
Portland, OR
| reply to Combat Chuck
said by Combat Chuck :said by bigpoppa206 :but that does not automatically allow you to get a copy through a P2P network. Change "get" to "distribute" and I'll agree with you on that point. Very well said. Dont distribute and your fine. I personally stay away from P2P and bit. As stated numerous times, newsgroups and IRC will get you the same thing without you having to upload a thing.
They only want the distributors, torrents and P2P work because most who use them dont set the software accordingly and upload while they download without their knowledge. |
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jap
Premium
join:2003-08-10
038xx
·RoadRunner Cable
1 edit | reply to mario620
Re: No big deal, idle threats
said by mario620 :Also can my isp scan my hard drive for other stuff? I have deleted everything that I can think of that could link me to more trouble. No, your ISP cannot scan your stored files: they can only see data as it is being transferred across their network.
Traditionally these notices go nowhere - especially on TV content. Sending a counter notice is a double-edged sword. On the one hand it firmly establishes that you received, read and comprehend the Comcast notice, thus removing the option to later play dumb about it. On the other it does place the onus back upon the copyright owner to escalate to the next level (supeona) if they want to pursue it. You may want to check what the EFF is currently recommending and go with that. Personally I would ignore it. Good luck sorting it out. |
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DVOOR8
join:2001-12-24
USA
·Optimum Online
| reply to mario620
Re: Notice of Claim of Copyright Infringement
said by mario620 :Changed IP addy's just to be safe. That does nothing, comcast know who you are no matter what you do withyour IP. |
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Grail Knight
Who Dares Wins
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join:2003-05-31 | He meant he changed his IP Address in the letter Comcast sent him before he posted it here. |
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DVOOR8
join:2001-12-24
USA
·Optimum Online
| said by Grail Knight :He meant he changed his IP Address in the letter Comcast sent him before he posted it here. Ahhhhhhhh, I see. |
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J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI
| reply to Kaltes
Re: No big deal, idle threats
said by Kaltes :said by J D McDorce : ISPs (in this case, Comcast) are bound by the DMCA to provide notification to their customers should the copyright holder (or their agent) report alleged infringements of their works. No, they are not. They are required to give the user notice when they receive a subpoena from the copyright holder requesting their customer's identity. If you don't want them to get your identity, you can send a counter-notice. Otherwise, they get it. said by J D McDorce : Had it been a work of music associated with the RIAA, you would likely have been presented with the opportunity (by a party other than Comcast) to pay several thousand dollars to avoid being sued by a RIAA member instead of receiving an email from Comcast. You would have seen the comcast letter first, then the RIAA demand letter (an empty threat) sometime later. Apparently we do not share the same interpretation of 17 USC 512 (»www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/···00-.html ).
In addition, I am not aware of either a requirement or a practice by ISPs to notify their customers in the event that their identifying information be requested via subpoena. |
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cjb
join:2001-10-11
Washington, DC | reply to mario620
Re: Notice of Claim of Copyright Infringement
Try the peer guardian plug-in |
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manfmmd
Premium
join:2003-01-14
Earth
clubs:
1 edit | Peer Guardian is worthless, for the most part. All that these companies need to do is install a few DSL lines (DHCP) into their facilities and the Peer Guardian IP Lists instantly become 95% useless. |
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NelsonMuntz2
@208.17.x.x | reply to mario620
HA-HA! You got caught. Will and Grace no less.:D |
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