n2jtx
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said by markopoleo  :“As a matter of fact, ham radio people are often the first to adopt new technology and enjoy playing with it," Says the retired ww1 vet who just got around to unpacking his new ham radio his parents got him on his birthday. [SARCASM]Nice analogy[/SARCASM]
I was doing e-mail, FTP and TELNET with TCP/IP over 2 Meter packet radio in 1990. What were you doing?
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Tzale
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| said by n2jtx :said by markopoleo :“As a matter of fact, ham radio people are often the first to adopt new technology and enjoy playing with it," Says the retired ww1 vet who just got around to unpacking his new ham radio his parents got him on his birthday. [SARCASM]Nice analogy[/SARCASM] I was doing e-mail, FTP and TELNET with TCP/IP over 2 Meter packet radio in 1990. What were you doing? EXACTLY!
These people don't realize how much Ham Radio is intertwined with really modern technology. They think Ham Radio is just CB radio with old pompous old guys who feel special that they are "licensed." It ain't nothing like CB radio and a lot of those old guys REALLY earned their licenses. Making a contact with someone in Saudi Arabia via the internet is easy, making that contact with NO wires your OWN radio station is far different. That is what people don't realize, it's not just for the "talk" but also for the "challenge" to connect two points. Digital Modes, Analog Modes, Echolink, Earth-Moon-Earth, Satellite Operations, Meteor Scatter (bouncing signals off an incoming meteorites ionized trail) etc...
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markopoleo
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said by n2jtx :said by markopoleo :“As a matter of fact, ham radio people are often the first to adopt new technology and enjoy playing with it," Says the retired ww1 vet who just got around to unpacking his new ham radio his parents got him on his birthday. [SARCASM]Nice analogy[/SARCASM] I was doing e-mail, FTP and TELNET with TCP/IP over 2 Meter packet radio in 1990. What were you doing? The same thing, i was hitting up BBS to play Legend of the Red Dragon. browseing Gopher on my 14.4 dialup modem. Even then I would laugh if ham radio ops protested BBL if it was available.
HAM is set to die, just a matter of when. Every year it dies a little more..thank goodness. Ham had its place, but its not in the USA anymore. No HAM was needed at ANY natural disaster since 1989 before you pull the "but HAM saves lives" card. |
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RayW
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| said by markopoleo :HAM is set to die, just a matter of when. Every year it dies a little more..thank goodness. Ham had its place, but its not in the USA anymore. No HAM was needed at ANY natural disaster since 1989 before you pull the "but HAM saves lives" card. I would recommend that you get involved in your community volunteer emergency response system, but it does not appear as if your town has one.
Item: Salt Lake Tornado (yes it happened, September 1999) POTs and cell phones down due to volume, city radio infrastructure damaged, Hams were the main link to get ambulances and other emergency vehicles into the area and pass emergency traffic until the 'modern' structure could be restored.
There are more examples, but no point in telling you them since you appear to have the mind set that what many people see as an important infrastructure tool, just gets in your way. But then, many communities are adding ham radios to their EOCs (Emergency Operations Center), and in our area, that is based on Florida and Mississippi experiences in the last round of hurricanes. A waste of money? Or people who know something you do not?
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KB2PSM
join:2002-08-06
Long Beach, NY
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TROLL ALERT!!!
markopoleo obviously read my several, direct and specific responses about my personal experiences to counter his claim- my being asked to provide emergency comms to major (including government) agencies after 9/11 AT GROUND ZERO. But, markopoleo is all about standing there with hands over his eyes, corks in his ears and saying, "nah nah nah nah" at the top of his lungs.
(Some great info, but I won't repeat it, so one can search for my past posts on the subject)
I am all for honest debate, but markopoleo isn't honest, just myopic.
Oh wait...did 9/11 happen before 1989 as marcopoleo presents???
Nope!
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
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said by markopoleo :said by n2jtx :said by markopoleo :“As a matter of fact, ham radio people are often the first to adopt new technology and enjoy playing with it," Says the retired ww1 vet who just got around to unpacking his new ham radio his parents got him on his birthday. [SARCASM]Nice analogy[/SARCASM] I was doing e-mail, FTP and TELNET with TCP/IP over 2 Meter packet radio in 1990. What were you doing? The same thing, i was hitting up BBS to play Legend of the Red Dragon. browseing Gopher on my 14.4 dialup modem. Even then I would laugh if ham radio ops protested BBL if it was available. HAM is set to die, just a matter of when. Every year it dies a little more..thank goodness. Ham had its place, but its not in the USA anymore. No HAM was needed at ANY natural disaster since 1989 before you pull the "but HAM saves lives" card. Even if ham radio never assisted in an emergency situation again, it would continue to have value. Internationally, it enables people to learn about radio communications and electrical/radio frequency engineering.
You're not making much sense and seem to be confused. Hams aren't Luddites...the core of the hobby is technology, both old and new. Per capita, you'll find more hams that have broadband than the general public. Hams would have opposed BPL back in the BBS days, too, and ironically it would have had more of a chance then. BPL won't keep up with future bandwidth demands and cable and DSL continue to grow while BPL is still back at the starting gate.
How does attacking ham radio further your interests in BPL? Even if your wish for the demise of ham radio came true, it wouldn't eliminate BPL's interference problems, it would just eliminate one of its potential interference victims. |
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Surfinusa
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Hmmm.... what was I doing in '90? Studying for my Ham exam but never took it. Morse bored me. But I enjoyed the idea of communication bypassing the phone company. |
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Michieru2
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No form of communication is useless, if one way fails there are those other old and new methods to go back on. Communication is a major part of our lives and without it, we would not be able to do the things we do now. Radios, HAM, and other forms of communications even to the telegraph shall always have some value even after the many year's it's been through. |
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Luppy
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said by markopoleo
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HAM is set to die, just a matter of when. Every year it dies a little more..thank goodness. Ham had its place, but its not in the USA anymore. No HAM was needed at ANY natural disaster since 1989 before you pull the "but HAM saves lives" card.
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Sounds like someone doesn't know their ass from their elbow.
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DeathK
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said by markopoleo :No HAM was needed at ANY natural disaster since 1989 before you pull the "but HAM saves lives" card. What??!! Tell that to my brother who went down to the Mississippi and Alabama area after all the hurricanes and set up a communications and staging area with some of the HAM bigwigs down there and the Red Cross (they even had to build their own antenna on the spot to put on the roof of the building they were in). He was down there for a number of days helping out (by the way his callsign is KC8BGU). He received letters of commendation from both the American Red Cross and whatever club he belongs to (I think it's a national club).
HAM radio operators helped out tremendously during the aftermath.
»www.ares.org/
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=l···G=Search
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N3EVL
join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA
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said by markopoleo :said by n2jtx :said by markopoleo :“As a matter of fact, ham radio people are often the first to adopt new technology and enjoy playing with it," Says the retired ww1 vet who just got around to unpacking his new ham radio his parents got him on his birthday. [SARCASM]Nice analogy[/SARCASM] I was doing e-mail, FTP and TELNET with TCP/IP over 2 Meter packet radio in 1990. What were you doing? The same thing, i was hitting up BBS to play Legend of the Red Dragon. browseing Gopher on my 14.4 dialup modem. Even then I would laugh if ham radio ops protested BBL if it was available. HAM is set to die, just a matter of when. Every year it dies a little more..thank goodness. Ham had its place, but its not in the USA anymore. No HAM was needed at ANY natural disaster since 1989 before you pull the "but HAM saves lives" card. Hey, Marko, my new HF rig is due to arrive any day now and I could use some help making a few mods, wanna come over and help me work on it? You could work on the user interface - we really need one for linux, maybe in java and there's lots of neat stuff we could do on the dsp engine so bring all your FFT skills and don't forget that C++ compiler and a fast machine to run it on....dying hobby - I don't think so... |
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Vvian Kalyss
join:2003-10-14
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[peanut gallery]
Yeah, it's pretty obvious after reading several of these threads who the trolls are.
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phattieg
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I am so tired of people bashing HAM's. These people saying "HAM is dead" should have their mailboxes torn down everytime they replace them, and be told "regular mail is dead, use e-mail you cry baby". Sorry, crappy analogy, but close enough, it gets the point across. You spend your time and effort on your community, and then listen to the "ignorant ones" complain for your hard work. Heh, I hope you have a major disaster, and no HAM helps you (which will never happen, because HAMS help everyone they can in a situation like that). |
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