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en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME


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reply to scooby
Re: It would be a great day...

Well, it totals out pretty expensive after all the taxes and fees:
Local + LD + taxes and fees (w 500 minutes ld, + caller ID and discounted Canada calling) works out to be ~$48/month.

Local plan: Personal Choice = $21.95
LD plan: International Saver II $2.95 + Value Plus 500 $13.00 = $15.95
Total: $37.90
Fees/taxes: $13.82
Bill Total: $51.72
Fees + Taxes = 26.7% of my bill!!

shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
reply to scooby
When I had Verizon service it was about $34 per month for unlimited local, caller id, call waiting, and maybe anonymous call reject. This was total after tax. Ridiculous.

shashinka

join:2000-09-16
West Boylston, MA
reply to ThosB
Same as in Mass. For Comcast or Charter you have to pay 6-$10 more I think without cable service.


scooby
Premium
join:2001-05-01
Schaumburg, IL

reply to en102
I wish our phone service was that cheap. Basic phone service in mid-Michigan with no features and the minimum local call package (required) comes out to about $26.70 a month with fees, taxes, and 911. Add $12.95 plus fees and its just about the same price as Comcast.


Bluethunder
Thunder PC

join:1999-12-05
Duncan, SC
·Charter Pipeline
·ViaTalk
·PHONE POWER

reply to Boricua65
I can't wait> to finally get DSL back! Switched back to cable internet a few months ago when switching to VOIP due to my total disgust with BS. It's still is bad as it always was in my neighborhood. I have been dealing, though, so I didn't have to get a land line from the BS scum again. I am stoked that I will soon be able to get naked DSL!


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME


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reply to Heterman
you know I'm putting this in as an example...
AT&T just call 300 = $16.00
AT&T Canada Plus = $5.95
= $22.00
Add in a few extra minutes of use, and I'm at $23 pretty easily.

Most of the former SBC discount programs require local+ld

The point I'm trying to make is that AT&T does not want to 'lose' any money by opening up local+ld to VoIP competition.
I expect prices to rise after 1year contracts, and a HUGE push for the ADSL2+/VDSL higher speed/rates to be able to able to attempt to compete with cable for speed (and be able to charge more $$$). The possible benefit will be the IPTV, which I don't expect to really do all that well unless they can sell it relatively cheap.


ThosB

@verizon.ne
reply to Boricua65
ATT and Verizon were forced to offer 'dry' DSL when their respective mergers were approved. What makes the California case so different? Verizon DSL in Michigan is $5.00 a month more without telephone service.


Heterman
Premium
join:2004-02-28
Fayetteville, AR

reply to en102
said by en102 See Profile :

+ $ 23 LD package (required by SBC/AT&T for pricing)
Someone gave you bad information.


en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME

reply to richdelb
Lets see how pricing should look...

Current:
DSL (1.5 / 384kbps) $15 + $12 (land line) + $ 23 LD package (required by SBC/AT&T for pricing) + taxes/fees/surcharges/unfees

Future:
DLS (1.5 / 384kbps) $20 + required AT&T Call Vantage ($30) + 'transport' fee (aka landline fee ) $ 10 + taxes/fees/surcharges/unfees

Pricing works out to be pretty similar after al the dust clears. Main different should be all the regulatory BS (about $10-$15 of fees)


richdelb
Go Hawks Go
Premium
join:2003-01-22
Algonquin, IL
reply to Boricua65
I'd be shocked if the price for "naked dsl" was anything less than 60 bucks per month.


Boricua65

join:2002-01-26
Puerto Rico
I can't wait until I finally get rid of the landline.
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