  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to scooby Re: It would be a great day...
Well, it totals out pretty expensive after all the taxes and fees: Local + LD + taxes and fees (w 500 minutes ld, + caller ID and discounted Canada calling) works out to be ~$48/month.
Local plan: Personal Choice = $21.95 LD plan: International Saver II $2.95 + Value Plus 500 $13.00 = $15.95 Total: $37.90 Fees/taxes: $13.82  Bill Total: $51.72 Fees + Taxes = 26.7% of my bill!! |
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 shashinka
join:2000-09-16 West Boylston, MA | reply to scooby When I had Verizon service it was about $34 per month for unlimited local, caller id, call waiting, and maybe anonymous call reject. This was total after tax. Ridiculous. |
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 shashinka
join:2000-09-16 West Boylston, MA | reply to ThosB Same as in Mass. For Comcast or Charter you have to pay 6-$10 more I think without cable service. |
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  scooby Premium join:2001-05-01 Schaumburg, IL
| reply to en102 I wish our phone service was that cheap. Basic phone service in mid-Michigan with no features and the minimum local call package (required) comes out to about $26.70 a month with fees, taxes, and 911. Add $12.95 plus fees and its just about the same price as Comcast. |
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  Bluethunder Thunder PC
join:1999-12-05 Duncan, SC
·Charter Pipeline
·ViaTalk
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| reply to Boricua65 I can't wait> to finally get DSL back! Switched back to cable internet a few months ago when switching to VOIP due to my total disgust with BS. It's still is bad as it always was in my neighborhood. I have been dealing, though, so I didn't have to get a land line from the BS scum again. I am stoked that I will soon be able to get naked DSL! |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
1 edit | reply to Heterman you know I'm putting this in as an example... AT&T just call 300 = $16.00 AT&T Canada Plus = $5.95 = $22.00 Add in a few extra minutes of use, and I'm at $23 pretty easily.
Most of the former SBC discount programs require local+ld
The point I'm trying to make is that AT&T does not want to 'lose' any money by opening up local+ld to VoIP competition. I expect prices to rise after 1year contracts, and a HUGE push for the ADSL2+/VDSL higher speed/rates to be able to able to attempt to compete with cable for speed (and be able to charge more $$$). The possible benefit will be the IPTV, which I don't expect to really do all that well unless they can sell it relatively cheap. |
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  ThosB
@verizon.ne | reply to Boricua65 ATT and Verizon were forced to offer 'dry' DSL when their respective mergers were approved. What makes the California case so different? Verizon DSL in Michigan is $5.00 a month more without telephone service. |
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  Heterman Premium join:2004-02-28 Fayetteville, AR
| reply to en102 said by en102 :+ $ 23 LD package (required by SBC/AT&T for pricing) Someone gave you bad information. |
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  en102 Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to richdelb Lets see how pricing should look...
Current: DSL (1.5 / 384kbps) $15 + $12 (land line) + $ 23 LD package (required by SBC/AT&T for pricing) + taxes/fees/surcharges/unfees
Future: DLS (1.5 / 384kbps) $20 + required AT&T Call Vantage ($30) + 'transport' fee (aka landline fee ) $ 10 + taxes/fees/surcharges/unfees
Pricing works out to be pretty similar after al the dust clears. Main different should be all the regulatory BS (about $10-$15 of fees) |
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  richdelb Go Hawks Go Premium join:2003-01-22 Algonquin, IL | reply to Boricua65 I'd be shocked if the price for "naked dsl" was anything less than 60 bucks per month. |
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  Boricua65
join:2002-01-26 Puerto Rico | I can't wait until I finally get rid of the landline. |
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