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Obliteration
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join:2005-09-18
Somewhere
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Regarding the 16/1Mbps tier rumor.
Is that a healthy ratio? I mean its 16:1.
That is one of the highest ratios of all time if not the highest. Would this high ratio have any bad effect on ping times or anything? Download speed is not important to me after the 5Mbps mark. I am more concerned with ping times for online gaming servers. | |
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YeeHaw
join:2002-11-17
cloud 9 | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic No crap, I would be just as happy with 2mb/1mb!
Upload mb per $ is all I look at when searching for a new ISP.
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join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV | what about us 6mbps users? We will get 10mbps down right or will we stay at 6mbps? | |
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Steely
Dumped Comcast for FiOS
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join:2000-10-15
Princeton Junction, NJ
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by mikedz4  :We will get 10mbps down right or will we stay at 6mbps? Or maybe go to the current "Gold" speeds of 8/768? | |
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join:2004-07-11
Fargo, ND
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| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by Steely :said by mikedz4 :We will get 10mbps down right or will we stay at 6mbps? Or maybe go to the current "Gold" speeds of 8/768? from what I have heard from various rumor mills that is in fact what is happening....
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join:2002-04-08
Oakley, CA
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by Loker :said by Steely :said by mikedz4 :We will get 10mbps down right or will we stay at 6mbps? Or maybe go to the current "Gold" speeds of 8/768? from what I have heard from various rumor mills that is in fact what is happening.... Why even bother  | |
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Comcast of Ocean County
join:2005-12-26
Brick, NJ | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic 8/768 seems pretty fair for an upgrade for silver, if they do go through with 16/1 for gold. We'll just have to wait and see. | |
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@comcast.net
| these are not rumor as i have verified them with comcast and yes the 6 will go up to i believe he said 10/762 and the 8 will go to 16/1 but the technology isnt set yet he said they are testing two formats of firmware and going to decide which of the two to go with
the places like sarasota which he did tell me about have it at no additional cost but its odd cause he said like your first 20 megs will fly at 16 then slow then fly again
i'm not sure to the specifics but we talked [comcast tech ] for like 40 minutes about it lol | |
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tshirt
Premium,MVM
join:2004-07-11
Snohomish, WA
 ·Comcast
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by D0nnie :
your first 20 megs will fly at 16 then slow then fly again
What you just described is POWERBOOST, already released in many markets.
It does work for small files, but isn't a true speed tier upgrade. | |
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Steely
Dumped Comcast for FiOS
Premium
join:2000-10-15
Princeton Junction, NJ
2 edits | said by D0nnie :
these are not rumor as i have verified them with comcast So let me get this straight. You, D0nnie the anonymous and unregistered, say you've *verified* these new 10/762 and 16/1 speeds with an unidentified Comcast tech and therefore we're to now call this fact rather than rumor??? Sure, whatever you say D0nnie boy.
BTW, the original rumor surrounding the upgrades was that the new speed tiers would be rolled out by the summer of '06. Hmmm.....doesn't summer end like TOMORROW?
PS - Look how OLD this thread is and how nothing of significance has happened! | |
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join:2004-03-14
Redmond, WA
·Comcast
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by Steely :PS - Look how OLD this thread is and how nothing of significance has happened! Lots of things of significance has happened. Comcast is losing lots of subscribers to fios. | |
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@comcast.net | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Care to post a citation or a link to support your contention? | |
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join:2004-03-14
Redmond, WA
2 edits | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by cracker 52 :
Care to post a citation or a link to support your contention?
Me?
Look all over the forums. It's obvious. | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by tdumaine :said by cracker 52 :
Care to post a citation or a link to support your contention?
Me? Look all over the forums. It's obvious. I looked through the forums and I could not find a lot to support your statement. In my query, I did notice that you seem to be a strong supporter for all things Verizon.
Comcast reported a record revenue-generating unit for the last quarter.
"High-Speed Internet revenues increased 22% to $1.2 billion in the second quarter of 2006, reflecting a 1.6 million or 20% increase in subscribers from the prior year and stable average monthly revenue per subscriber. Comcast ended the second quarter of 2006 with 9.3 million high-speed Internet subscribers or 22% penetration of available homes."
»phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zht···ghlight=
Comcast is doing just fine, and if anything, Verizon is losing customers to Comcast in their wired phone service due to CDV.
Verizon's numbers are high mostly because of their discounted DSL offerings, not because of FiOS. There just aren't enough FiOS subscribers, yet, to cause any kind of emergency-like reaction from Comcast.
FiOS Internet customers accounted for 111,000 of the net broadband connection additions in the second quarter 2006 and now make up 375,000 of the company’s 6.1 million total wireline broadband connections, which have increased 47.9 percent compared with the second quarter 2005.
»investor.verizon.com/print.aspx?···ID%3D759
So, there you have it. Less than 400K FiOS subscribers with only a 15% average penetration in existing markets. Comcast has 9.3 million HSI subscribers and they are looking at a 20% increase from last year with over a 20% penetration in the market.
Nothing of any real significance has occurred to give Comcast reason to flinch. Hopefully that will change soon, for everyone's benefit. | |
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join:2004-03-14
Redmond, WA
·Comcast
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Well, i'm supportive of verizon because i didnt even know they were laying fiber out here where i am till i got the ad in the mail sayin it was here. I finaly have a choice other than comcast or slow dsl.
You don't see all the different posts asking if this or that is fiber that the construction crews are laying? All the posts that ask how long from once its laid till it gets lit at the CO?
Once the fiber is out there, i would think alot of people would want to get away from the spotty service in some comcast markets. I would also think alot of people would want to save money. (not sure if all markets are the same, but i'm savin $12 a month). A handful would want it for faster speeds.
Comparing growth on an already built out network, to one still being built is not the best example really.
So verizon loses a few pots lines to comcast for CDV. Then theres the issues with losing modem sync, etc and your CDV isn't working so great anymore. Such as:
»[Connectivity] Intermittent Signal Loss - HSI, HDTV & Digital Ca
»[Speed] Tallahassee, FL and Surrounding Area
»[Speed] Near Dialup Speeds Lately
»[Connectivity] Illinois NW suburbs intermittent problems
»Minneapolis Northwest Suburbs
more if you like.
Now, they may not go back to verizon for a pots line, but if comcast cant keep the network working decently, that means your nice little CDV isn't going to be working so well either.
I'm so very glad fios is here in my area. If i gave my true opinion of comcast, i'd be banned pretty quick!  | |
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic I'm not suggesting that Verizon FiOS is not a superior product to Comcast HSI, I was simply pointing out that the sluggish deployment is not having a desperate, immediate effect on Comcast's current HSI subscribers. Evidently, as has been pointed out earlier, not enough to cause Comcast to react.
CDV is not a typical VoIP phone service such as Vonage. I'm not relying completely on the internet from point to point when making a call. I have a separate modem for my phone service from my HSI service. I have had my CDV for 6 months now and I have never had a dead line, even through a power outage.
I will agree that FiOS is great, IF you can get it; however, I have Verizon telephone service too, and it cannot compare in quality or price to Comcast's CDV. And there are many more instances of CDV replacing Verizon's phone service than FiOS replacing Comcast HSI.
There are over 9 million HSI subscribers, you could show me 1000 posts where people have had connection issues and it still would not mean very much when looking at the whole picture. | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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1 edit | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by jmn1207 :I'm not suggesting that Verizon FiOS is not a superior product to Comcast HSI, I was simply pointing out that the sluggish deployment is not having a desperate, immediate effect on Comcast's current HSI subscribers. Evidently, as has been pointed out earlier, not enough to cause Comcast to react. I don't think the sluggishness to react has as much to do with the slow rollout of FIOS as you may think. Comcast has inherintly been behind the curve when it comes to reacting to competition and speed upgrades. Most every other provider is pretty much done with upgrades before Comcast even starts to think about them.
To me, it is all because they know that in most of their coverage area they are the only game in town and people have no other choice.
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jmn1207
Premium
join:2000-07-19
Reston, VA
·Verizon FIOS
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic I understand that Comcast is often much slower to fully implement upgrades, but I have had 16/1 service since I signed up with Comcast in March. I do have competition in my region with Verizon FiOS, although Verizon has not yet, nor will they ever, drag fibre to my door.
It's seems as though the size of Comcast, added with the lack of competition, is what causes upgrades to stagnate. | |
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ropeguru
Premium
join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by jmn1207 :I understand that Comcast is often much slower to fully implement upgrades, but I have had 16/1 service since I signed up with Comcast in March. I do have competition in my region with Verizon FiOS, although Verizon has not yet, nor will they ever, drag fibre to my door. It's seems as though the size of Comcast, added with the lack of competition, is what causes upgrades to stagnate. Yeah. And just to add, I am in Richmond, VA where FIOS is currently rolling out and as you are, I am in an area of Richmond where we are pretty much scheduled to be last for the roll out. Comcast here has yet to even roll out Powerboos, much less increase speeds to compete against FIOS.
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1 edit | tdumaine,
Pointing to a few postings on this board compared to the 10 million Comcast HSI customers is nothing more than anecdotes, which certainly is not any meaningful support of your claim. I was looking for third party reports of actual numbers, which you haven't shown. | |
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join:2001-09-01
Atlanta, GA
| said by mikedz4 :what about us 6mbps users? We will get 10mbps down right or will we stay at 6mbps? Rumor has it you'll be downgraded to 128k to free up bandwidth for the gold tier upgrade.
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Amadeus
Premium
join:2005-05-02
Miami, FL | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic I 2 techs come out on sunday to run some speed test because they were installing some fiber on the next street over the tests at that time came out to around 10/2 but after they were done it went to back normal. | |
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mikedz4
join:2003-04-14
Weirton, WV | oh yeah while you get double the speed? that seems barely fair to the people who pay $46/month for internet, now doesn't it? | |
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CopperMux
join:2005-01-18
·Comcast
| Well, just to add fuel.....Got Comcast 2 months back. 8/768 set up. Usual speed test results would have a quick burst mid test to 10 - 12 meg and then level off around 8.
Out of nowhere the speed tests are much faster. On Speakeasy, which I know isnt exactly accurate but is what I use each time, the speed test at 8 PM last night was 13.5 meg down, the usual 700+ up. Ran it again, slightly higher that time. 3 or 4 more times and same results.
Then ran a test before work this morning, 17.5 meg down, 700+ up. Tested 3 times, same thing.
Could be a burst that stuck around too long or something is up with a possible upgrade coming soon. Either way, its nice to see higher speed, whether its legit or not! | |
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join:2005-01-18
·Comcast
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Test em later today. Something has definitely changed though. | |
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| ditka_b
Premium
join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL | I test at 25000 to 32000 with the new speed burst and get nice 1900L Dl speeds from big pipe sites like microsoft and the likes. It's definitely COMCASTIC! | |
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@comcast.net
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Speed tests are not relavant as they are so small a file the powerboof is still in effect. Large files will show that regular speed is quickly restored , which is not comcastic at all. It stinks and I don't like it.
If your LARGE files are comming in as fast as you claim, you have more there than powerboof. | |
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Premium
join:2001-10-05
Barrington, IL | Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic I get between 1000K and 3000K on big downloads probably averaging 2500K. Your nodes prob maxed out is all. | |
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join:2004-01-29
New Bedford, MA
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic I'm in New Bedford, Massachusetts and I had no idea a Comcast upgrade was in the works. I found this thread and decided to unplug my modem and restart. My speed test results have changed, it appears I do have the download increase but not the upload increase. Is this possible? | |
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fonzbear2000
Premium
join:2005-08-09
Saint Paul, MN
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by Matt9 :I'm in New Bedford, Massachusetts and I had no idea a Comcast upgrade was in the works. I found this thread and decided to unplug my modem and restart. My speed test results have changed, it appears I do have the download increase but not the upload increase. Is this possible? it's probably powerboost
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jasqid
Fiber In Your Diet?
join:2002-04-02
East Palestine, OH
| I have heard regular speed (Silver Tiered) folks will only get the upload doubled. 6000/768. And Speed Tier to 16000/1000.
My neighbor had a talk with a rep over the weekend and it was mentioned 2000 upload on the speed tier. So... wait and see. Time will tell. | |
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nshulga
join:2002-06-06
Morrisville, PA | I upgraded to 5/2 back in September.. could have been 30/5 but I decided to save some money instead.
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owine
Premium
join:2002-08-29
Salem, MA | att needs to speed their ass up with their fiber here in CT. i want some comcastic speeds. theres fios in a small part of the state which is verizon but the rest is att and gets screwed. | |
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@comcast.net | judging from Comcast's previous actions,I bet the next speed upgrade,Whatever it is,Wont include HSI only accounts . | |
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shadow_
Premium
join:2004-01-04
Washington, NJ | Download Speed: 9386 kbps (1173.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 354 kbps (44.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
from speakeasy that is....i remember like a month ago it was around 6400 kbps. So i guess they are boosting up the speeds. | |
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airhockey
Got Airhockey?
Premium
join:2001-03-01
San Jose, CA | Just signed up again in San Jose area and 9400/325 range here for just the basic package | |
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join:2005-01-18 | Ok, ran those speedtests. Average speed at 50% was 1.3. Ran speakeasy 6 times across a 4 hour period from 6:30 to 10:30 PM, lowest was 11 Meg down, highest was 15 Meg. Either the bursting has been expanded somehow or an upgrade is there. | |
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Steely
Dumped Comcast for FiOS
Premium
join:2000-10-15
Princeton Junction, NJ
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Well I just downloaded most of the 64MB optonline FTP test file in IE and got 790 KB/sec (6320 kbps). I also ran a java-based speedtest and got this:
dslreports.com speed test result on 2006-03-23 07:46:39 EST:
12015 / 361
Your download speed : 12015 kbps or 1501.9 KB/sec.
That is 163.5% better than an average user on comcast.net
Your upload speed : 361 kbps or 45.2 KB/sec.
That is 8.1% worse than an average user on comcast.net
Then I ran one of the Flash-based Speakeasy tests and got this:
Download Speed: 9024 kbps (1128 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 356 kbps (44.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
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join:2000-06-01
Caledonia, MI
·AT&T U-Verse
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic I actually prefer the speakeasy test to the optionline one.
Why ? It has always been the more accurate overall number. The Opti test will give you a very good feel for what you can expect downloading a single file. But for me anyway all my traffic is newsgroups with 10 threads running and I ALWAYS beat out the opti test with my news downloading, but the speakeasy test usually shows me what my lines max is and with 10 threads I hit that. | |
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Steely
Dumped Comcast for FiOS
Premium
join:2000-10-15
Princeton Junction, NJ
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by riekl :I actually prefer the speakeasy test to the optionline one. That's why I provided links to alternate large file downloads. Also, take a look at this:
»[Speed] Finally: A True Comcast Network SpeedTest | |
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| BarneyBadAss
Badasses Fight For Freedom
Premium
join:2004-05-07
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·Verizon FIOS
| Um.... er... uh.... figuer there might be some form of traffic shaping going on???
Also, there may be some delay depending on what you use to measure your speeds.
When I use straight FTP I seem to get better speeds than trying to download the same file via a browser.
I push some fairly large files via FTP through a VPN and it goes pretty quick. I also have an HTTPS server set up within my VPN and that one seems to be somewhat slower.. in the 30-50% range...
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owine
Premium
join:2002-08-29
Salem, MA
| theres a .bat file to download the 64mbyte test from the OOL servers, show your speed and then delete it. i mirrored it at »dump.oliverwine.info//files/1/Pu···pool.zip in case you want to use it. i prefer it or a long newsgroups download to any test. | |
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MrWhippit
You Big Dummy Gimmie Back My Bandwith
Premium
join:2002-04-04
Philadelphia, PA
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic Hey,
Im about to move to Philly next week (Old City). Never had Comcast in PA before. Gonna call em today or tommorow. And with this thread goin on about possible upgrades, Id like to be as informed as possible
Anyone have advice on if they have any "special" promotions or approaches I should take to get the most outta my service with em. Already checked on FIOS availablity but a no-go so far in the city.
PM with any advice
Thanks alot
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owine
Premium
join:2002-08-29
Salem, MA | someone posted that the 8mbit tier is seeing 10mbits down but its unconfirmed. | |
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Premium
join:2001-11-28
Wilmington, DE
| Re: Unofficial Next Comcast Speed Upgrade Rumor Topic said by djrobx : 3000/128 was a common speed tier back in the old @home days. 23.4:1. -- Rob I think most people actually saw faster speeds than that though. I for one got about 10000/1200 back in the @Home days with no transfer caps or anything. The fastest I ever downloaded was 1.33MBytes/sec and fastest upload was 201KBytes/sec and I would sometimes do 500 or 600 gigs a month in transfer. | |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| * if you live in an area where you only get comcast HSI, you will not be seeing 10/1 or anything like that except as a more expensive tier, if at all.
* if you don't bundle HSI with another comcast service, you will be stuck at 6M/368K until you either bundle or pay for a higher tier.
* prices will not go down, no matter what.
As long as we only have duopoly competition (no competition for some), comcast will not lower prices. Roberts has said repeatedly he doesn't believe in competing on price. As long as there is no real competition, there will not be lower prices; speeds may increase, but price will not go down. | |
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vang
Let's Get Ready To Get Ready
join:2002-01-02
Point Pleasant Beach, NJ | 16 MB down? Yeesh. How 'bout some upload, Comcast? Maybe 2MB like Fios?
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Quaoar
join:2004-08-11
Fort Collins, CO
| From CHSI Denver server to Fort Collins multiple runs average just fractionally **over** 16Mbps (2100KBps). Testmy.net is just over 14Mbps. In the many years I've has HSI, SpeakEasy has never been even remotely reliable except once in a while at 0dark30.
Upload to Testmy.net is 755 which is typical.
I am subscribed to the 8M/768K tier. I usually run a speed test once or twice a week and this is the first time I've seen anything over maybe 8.5Mbps.
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