technick
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Loganville, GA
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Re: More BS from BS
Ya know its nice seeing all the people come here and rant on about Bellsouth, but when is someone going to start a revolution and stop bitching? It's sad that the goverment isn't concerned about the citizens...
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KeepOnRockin
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Beaverton, OR
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| said by technick  : It's sad that the goverment isn't concerned about the citizens... And never have been.
The government's main concern is with itself. The citizen concern, if it exists at all, is minimal. |
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wtansill
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Falls Church, VA
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said by technick :Ya know its nice seeing all the people come here and rant on about Bellsouth, but when is someone going to start a revolution and stop bitching? It's sad that the goverment isn't concerned about the citizens... Sounds like a volunteer to me...
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72276539
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Atlanta, GA
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said by technick :Ya know its nice seeing all the people come here and rant on about Bellsouth, but when is someone going to start a revolution and stop bitching? It's sad that the goverment isn't concerned about the citizens... Quit hiding behind the keyboard and start the revolution. Damned elitist keyboard warriors.
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fiberguy
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said by technick :Ya know its nice seeing all the people come here and rant on about Bellsouth, but when is someone going to start a revolution and stop bitching? It's sad that the goverment isn't concerned about the citizens... Very true! here's the thing in this story that bothers me the most:
"The network is technically illegal, under a BellSouth lobbied law, created to thwart municipal broadband deployment of networks faster than 128kbps."
If the law makers were so concerned about their citizens, they would simply change this silly law in the first place. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | It's a silly law much like laws that prevent me from running coax along the fence and giving my neighbors access to free cable TV. |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
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Pasadena, TX | No its not. That's stoopid. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | Why not? If cable TV doesn't want to service them for a fair price and instead wants to gouge them why shouldn't I be allowed to step in and do some good community service? |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
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Pasadena, TX
| Because you'd be stealing the cable co's product. I don't see how NO building its own network is comparable to stealing cable service. I'm pretty sure they're paying for the connections to the net. They're just not paying BellSouth, and BS is mad. Whah!
Your analogy is completely wrong. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | I'm not stealing their product. I'd be paying the bill for it. I'm just sharing it with the community.
What authority does the city have to offer internet services? |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
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Pasadena, TX
| What authority prevents them? What authority gives them the right to build roads? To pick up trash? To tax property and educate your children. Its called "the vote." Citizens vote and give the city the authority to do things on their behalf.
What gives BellSouth the authority to short-cicuit the will of the voting public? No one voted for them.
And you are providing the means for your neighbors to steal the cable co's content, you know it, you're doing it willfully. That's illegal.
As far as I know, the city isn't stealing anything. |
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emptywig
Huh? What?
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Pasadena, TX | reply to bogey780
Since when does ANYONE need authority to offer interent services? What sort of question is that? |
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CapinPete
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Loxahatchee, FL
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said by bogey780 :I'm not stealing their product. I'd be paying the bill for it. I'm just sharing it with the community. What authority does the city have to offer internet services? Are you serious? If you were a Bellsouth subscriber and tried to share your connection with everyone, I am pretty sure that would be against their terms of service.
You are comparing apples to oranges. If you wanted to lease your own dedicated line, like a T1 etc, then you could share it with anyone you wanted to.
Bellsouth wants to prevent muni's from being able to do things like this. I don't know how they get away with this garbage but basically it just ensures that they will have that much less competition. |
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BuriedCaesar
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said by bogey780 : I'm just sharing it with the community. Okay - so you say you'd not be stealing the cable service, rather "sharing it with the community". Interesting notion.
I suspect that by doing that you'd be violating several of the terms of the contract you signed with the cable company when you agreed to accept installation of that service at your location and pay that bill, and in a variety of ways, too. That's where the fine print of that contract stomps through your front door and announces the illegality of what you've been doing...and they wouldn't care one whit as to how benevolent your intent was with your neighbors.
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That was preposterous! Utter Nonsense! Totally unsupportable drivel! You can't be serious!....Um, what did you say? |
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fiberguy
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Bogey, get real would you?
You buy a service which is defined by not only the cable company, but the FCC as well. There are laws about what you can do with the service. You are also bound by an agreement you have with the cable company to view the service in the dwelling at the address authorized by them at the time of the agreement was started.
Further, you don't have the permission from the networks to redistribute THEIR signals to anyone else for profit or not.
Like cable who signed a licence agreement to distribute the networks, you don't have the same right.
You're really reaching on this one. |
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bogey780
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Here | reply to emptywig
Ok, point to me where a vote was taken? |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to BuriedCaesar
And the city is violating the law. Not to mention doing somethign they're not authorized by the charter to do. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
Here | reply to fiberguy
Likewise. Where's the authorization for what the city is doing? |
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53059959
Temp banned from BBR more then anyone
join:2002-10-02
PwnZone | reply to 72276539
Vote CoxCable4 for president!
i'll give you nerds your broadband for cheap! |
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fiberguy
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You mean the same city that has the authority to build roads, hire a police force, and provide other services? THAT city?
I didn't think that the city was becoming an ISP, rather, providing relief.
I think the question you should be asking is "where does BS get off gauging N.O. residents in a time of disaster?"
Bell South is in there charging people that are trying to literally pick up the sticks after the hurricans and floods $70.00 for internet, twice as much because they don't have phone? GET REAL! I guess you were ok with paying $6.00 a gallon for gas the on September 11th, 2001, too?
You stated you could run a cable down the fence and provide cable tv service to others. You don't have the right to do that. The city, who owns the network and the internet that's piped through it, is another case.
I could give a rats ass about BS and their temper tantrum.
Bogey, you are comparing apples and oranges. |
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