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tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to Orwell1984
Re: TV

said by Orwell1984 :

Nice to be called a moron for saving around $50 a month for telephone service that is indistinguishable in every respect from old fashioned phone service. I could care less how much it costs the provider all I care about is how much it costs me. Why do you think the telco pays any more to provide the same service at twice the price? (over 90% of my calls are long distance) The fact is we talk on the order of 5 times as much for half the price. It is good to be the moron!
You have more faith then me bro. I never said VoIP isn't for everybody. I don't make much LD calls and if I need too, I have 2 cell phones that work just fine. The point here is though it's felt that 40.00 is TOO MUCH for VoIP providers to be charging, can you fathom what it's going to be when the FCC starts regulating it, the states want to take control of it and everyone will want some easy revenue? My 17.00 pots like ended up at 34 because of taxes, fees and features I wanted. But it's your money. When you start paying about 15.00 a month more once the feds and states see a revenue cow, for you, it still will be a bargain if you live on the LD side of your service..


Orwell1984

@res.rr

reply to tc1uscg
Nice to be called a moron for saving around $50 a month for telephone service that is indistinguishable in every respect from old fashioned phone service. I could care less how much it costs the provider all I care about is how much it costs me. Why do you think the telco pays any more to provide the same service at twice the price? (over 90% of my calls are long distance) The fact is we talk on the order of 5 times as much for half the price. It is good to be the moron!


HybridGuy

@rr.com
reply to tc1uscg
TWC pays MCI per VoIP sub; hard to charge 15.00 bucks for a service that costs you 15.00 bucks.

They do a 39.99 package for digi/hsd subs but I feel they should be charging 29.99 for the service, regardless of bundling.

Just my .02


hello2

@148.129.x.x
reply to tc1uscg
agreed!!! and to make matter worst ... the bill you like if they provide traditional phn service with all the taxes possible.... total savings from cable supposed voip 5 bucks... then you factor PROFESIONAL INSTALATION savings are zero...


yacman

@shawcable.net

reply to tc1uscg
what is the cost of motorola voip modem?. i think it's more than a few bucks. check the forcast of the cableco's on thier voip. i think most start to make money after 6 or so months.
most cable co's also offer free service calls, of which some of the cost is built into the rates. it would be nice, however, if these companies would offer some sort of loyalty rebate, for those subs who keep a service past 1 year (as an example). as for unreliable, they MUST keep a 99.9997(or whatever) up time to keep their CLEC status. unreliability is not an issue for the masses( at least in the system operating in my area). what's really insulting is someone making a blanket statment like "Whats really sad are the poor morons who shell out 30+ bucks for unreliable, overrated VoIP services from cable that cost's cable a few dollars to provide. It's one thing to pay 15 bucks a month or less for this same service, but when cable charges 40.00.. It's almost insulting."


nfixit2004
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Brooklyn, NY
reply to Ahrenl
Just bring FIOS to NYC Please!

and I could care less about cable

King75
King Of All And Nothing
Premium
join:2004-07-31
Stevensville, MD
clubs:
reply to Rickez
They are in alot of countys here in Maryland. They are also selling their yellowpages, they are worth atleast a couple billion. Besides they bought MCI didn't they?


Dagda1175

join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA
reply to icp1
Not even beginning to be widespread enough to matter.


tc1uscg

join:2005-03-09
Saint Clair Shores, MI

reply to N3OGH
Whats really sad are the poor morons who shell out 30+ bucks for unreliable, overrated VoIP services from cable that cost's cable a few dollars to provide. It's one thing to pay 15 bucks a month or less for this same service, but when cable charges 40.00.. It's almost insulting.

Ahrenl

join:2004-10-26
North Andover, MA
·Verizon FIOS

reply to Rickez
said by Rickez See Profile :

Fio's is in how many homes now? 17? Verizon can not handle this, they never finish anything.
Actually there are about 30 towns in Mass that are pretty much all wired up for Fiber, that they're rolling out TV service for. Countless others in the other couple dozen states they're also wiring. With the money they're spending they're making some good progress.. Considering Comcast is considering offering 16/1 service to all FIOS available localities, I'd say Comcast is a little more worried about it than you are.


Rickez
Goinginsane

join:2000-09-02
Three Rivers, MA
reply to icp1
Fio's is in how many homes now? 17? Verizon can not handle this, they never finish anything.


N3OGH
Bear patrol must be working like a charm
Premium
join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
reply to Dagda1175
I think Verizon is only offering TV in areas served by their fiber optic service.

Even then, not all areas yet..

WMLGuy

join:2000-06-05
Rockaway, NJ
reply to icp1
Actually it's 30/5


icp1
Premium
join:2000-10-13
Saint Louis, MO
clubs:
·AT&T DSL Service

reply to Dagda1175
said by Dagda1175 See Profile :

I cant imagine verizon offering television service. Even their fastest dsl around here is less than half the speed of the cable I have.
Where have you been? FIOS fiber offers 30/2 packages if I remember correctly.


Dagda1175

join:2001-06-17
Goleta, CA
I cant imagine verizon offering television service. Even their fastest dsl around here is less than half the speed of the cable I have.
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