Xure
join:2003-11-14
Beverly Hills, CA
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Re: Imagine, if you will...
said by pnh102  :said by G_Poobah :And, umm, please tell me WHERE I can find another ISP? See, I don't have a choice. You can CANCEL. And besides, this is America, you always have choices. If broadband Internet is that important to you, you can:
•Convince your neighbors to create a non-profit venture which can share the cost of a T1 or other such "high end" access.
•Move to someplace with more choices.
The bottom line is if your ISP does this and you continue to pay them for service, then what incentive do they have to change their ways? Not patronizing their service is the only way you will get any business' attention. Yeah... I remember a few news items where people tried #1...
Hmmm I wonder what happened? Ohh, I remember, they got sued and dragged through the courts until they could not afford it any more and also they lobbied again and again untill laws were passed to prohibit your proposal under #1 there.
As for #2. Maybe we all should move to Virginia, where the lobbied ones live. Ahh to be the lobbied one. No better way to show off broadband that a small, niche market of DC so they can claim how good BB in USA is. |
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Minister
join:2002-01-02
Fleeting | I agree.
I've also never liked "Move" as a solution to a broadband gap. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
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said by Xure :Yeah... I remember a few news items where people tried #1... If someone tried using my tax money to build their network I would sue them too. But there are locations where competing cable companies and phone companies have set up shop using their own money without interference from the incumbents.
said by Xure :As for #2. Maybe we all should move to Virginia, where the lobbied ones live. Ahh to be the lobbied one. No better way to show off broadband that a small, niche market of DC so they can claim how good BB in USA is. Well, if you absolutely cannot possibly live without broadband, then whose fault is it if you don't ensure that its available at your location before you move?
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JakCrow
join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA | People say "move" like it's a complete non-issue to do so. What a straw man. |
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pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| said by JakCrow :People say "move" like it's a complete non-issue to do so. What a straw man. And you're reading it out of context. I said that if broadband is so critical to your day to day existence that you would absolutely cease to function if you did not have it, that you should take it into consideration when you move.
Starting your own broadband venture is about as easy as moving. If you want it that bad, you'll do either one. If you want to sit on your butt and hope that an ISP will eventually serve you, then you need to realize that it might not happen and there won't be a thing you can do about it.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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said by pnh102 :said by Xure :Yeah... I remember a few news items where people tried #1... If someone tried using my tax money to build their network I would sue them too. So you're literally saying your earlier posts are full of BS. Nice, at least now you're admitting it too...  |
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pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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| said by kamm :said by pnh102 :said by Xure :Yeah... I remember a few news items where people tried #1... If someone tried using my tax money to build their network I would sue them too. So you're literally saying your earlier posts are full of BS. Nice, at least now you're admitting it too... Where did I mention any taxpayer-provided broadband solution?
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pnh102
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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said by Minister :I've also never liked "Move" as a solution to a broadband gap. It goes without saying that if someone chooses to live in the sticks he/she will have to learn to do without certain conveniences. It's like listening to people who move to the country to "get away from it all" but then whine that they have to drive 20 miles to get groceries or that the nearest gas station is far away.
Some places have competition, some don't. If the only ISP which serves your area decides to play the QoS game, the only logical thing you can do is to reward them accordingly by not patronizing them.
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cmaenginsb
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join:2001-03-19
Palmdale, CA
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Xure, actually the number of people who successfully started with option #1 and still do it. There is nothing preventing this from happening anywhere in the US as long as it doesn't involve the government at any level.
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