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G_Poobah

join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY

reply to pnh102
Re: Imagine, if you will...

As usual, you fail to list ANY strategy that benefits the customer, your only worldview encompases that of the megacorps.

Why should I CANCEL? They are the ones who are not living up to their end of the bargain. We gave them a MONOPOLY when they first came here, to wire up the town. It's a two-way street, they still have access to the poles, and wires, and if they want to provide a service to my town, then they have to live under MY rules. And these aren't socialist commie rules, these are rules that benefit ME, the customer. Rules like response time, which we already have. Rules like Local Cable Access Channels, which we already have. And new rules, Like net neutrality, which we WILL have.

So, to summarize, I choose option 3, use politics to force the cable providers to provide what I pay for! If they want to sell it ANYWHERE in this country, then they sell it under our rules, not the other way around. I live in a democracy. I can go to my town cable board, and get it changed! It's not that hard to do!

For those who say it's socialism, I laugh. Maybe it is, but look at all the countries who have surged past us in broadband penetration, speeds, and prices. It happens BECAUSE their governments set standards, and required corporations to live to those standards.
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scrummie02
Bentley
Premium
join:2004-04-16
Arlington, VA

what bargain...where is it printed they are obliged to give us all of these things.

Listen...I am just as mad as the next guy about the telcos/cable companies lack of customer service, overselling of nodes and price jacking...the fact is broadband isn't a utility and they companies are obligated to give us anything. So technically it can't really be a monopoly since there is competition. Telcos were broken up by the government because telephone service is considered a utility and is essential. Broadband does not offer anything essential like 911 service. If you must absolutely have broadband then find a way to get it through leasing a T-1 or just use dial-up. If you feel broadband should be a utility at the tax payers expense and should be more heavily regulated by the government then vote in politicians with these platforms. If none in your existing area share your views, write to them or help start a grassroots program to help encourage municipal broadband growth.

I am certainly no corporate apologist, but these companies don't owe us anything by way of broadband.

bbenso1

join:2004-11-28
Baltimore, MD

reply to G_Poobah
said by G_Poobah See Profile :

Why should I CANCEL? They are the ones who are not living up to their end of the bargain.
You should CANCEL because you are paying them for a service and you deem the price they're charging for that service to be too high. If the price is too high, don't buy it. If you absolutely MUST have the product, then no price is too high.

I know you say that dial-up isn't an option because you don't have a landline, but I'd bet my year's earnings that you COULD have a landline if you wanted one. So, if you're that upset with Comcast over the service you get from them then cancel it, get a landline installed and buy a modem. Problem solved. You've got internet and you don't have to pay Comcast a dime for the service you don't think is worth what they charge.


G_Poobah

join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY

Again, why should I cancel? I can go before my local cable board, and get comcast in trouble.

It's not in MY best interest to cancel. It's in MY best interest to have comcast provide me a TCP/IP connection at a the best speed possible, for the lowest price possible. It's in comcasts best interest to provide me the slowest speed possible, at the highest price possible.

Read this great article, and you'll understand. It applies perfectly to this situation. To summarize:

"I know, people always respond to these articles by saying this is simply capitalism at work -- companies trying to make the most money for their bottom line and their shareholders. Phooey. This is a monopolistic situation, where a captive consumer has no choice but to buy one product from one company. There is no free market in operation here. That's not capitalism."

»redtape.msnbc.com/2006/03/the_hi···t_o.html
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bbenso1

join:2004-11-28
Baltimore, MD

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

Again, why should I cancel? I can go before my local cable board, and get comcast in trouble.
What are you gonna get them in trouble for? Providing you a best-effort internet connection, that is clearly labeled best-effort in the contract you signed, for a price that the market is obviously willing to bear since people are buying it?

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

It's in MY best interest to have comcast provide me a TCP/IP connection at a the best speed possible, for the lowest price possible. It's in comcasts best interest to provide me the slowest speed possible, at the highest price possible.
Actually, it's in YOUR best interest to have ANYONE (not just comcast) provide you a TCP/IP connection at the best speed possible for the lowest price possible. If comcast isn't providing that, then you should get it somewhere else. Is it comcast's fault that you moved somewhere without a southern exposure, preventing you from getting satellite? Is it comcast's fault that you moved somewhere with too many trees to get wireless internet? Is it comcast's fault that you refuse to get a landline which would allow you to use dial-up?

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

Read this great article, and you'll understand. It applies perfectly to this situation. To summarize:

"I know, people always respond to these articles by saying this is simply capitalism at work -- companies trying to make the most money for their bottom line and their shareholders. Phooey. This is a monopolistic situation, where a captive consumer has no choice but to buy one product from one company. There is no free market in operation here. That's not capitalism."

»redtape.msnbc.com/2006/03/the_hi···t_o.html
Except that article doesn't apply to this situation. You are not a captive consumer and you do have choices, you just don't like them. You could cut down some of those trees (assuming they're on your property) so that wireless is an option. You could move somewhere that has DSL access. You could get a landline and use dial-up. You could get a T-1 to your house. Hell, you could get a T-1 and start up your own ISP in the area to compete with comcast. I'd be willing to bet that would get them to drop their rates. The big downside to every one of these options is this: You don't want to do it.


batageek
Slave To The Duopoly
Premium
join:2003-01-25

And when you do decide you want to do it, here's the crap you'll run into.

»www.tricitybroadband.com/mailers.htm
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