rody_44
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join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
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Re: Comcast Business
i think the numbers are something around 3 thousand dollars per subscriber for construction costs. if there is so much potential in the building just ask 2 other people to subscribe and your costs go down to 333 dollars. the fact of the matter is comcast makes alot more money on video and internet for houses. i dont think they are even obligated to provide service for commercial propertys so it comes down to a numbers game. they have come along way but when cable systems were designed they pretty well left out a ton of commercial considerations. thats just my thinking. with all comcasts offerings i just dont think there is that much profit to be made with commercial settings. not yet anyway. some systems they dont have to actually order it. they just have to type a letter saying they may be interested in the service if it was available. |
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awluck
join:2000-05-24
Duluth, GA
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(Before I get started, that parking lot around the building is 70 feet wide, and there is a wide buffer on all sides between parking lot and street. Also, I'm guessing that "tunneling" might have been my hearing what he didn't say, and that buried service by whatever means is more likely what was meant. It is a phone pole-less piece of property, like the residential subdivision I live in. MediaOne/ATTCable/Comcast didn't have any problem coming in and replacing every linear foot of buried service where I live about six years ago, and they didn't surcharge the customers bills.)
I'm not challenging the numbers, I just don't understand the philosophy. It appears unstructured, at best. Capitalism is based on creating a business case and taking a risk. The more intelligently assessed the business case, the more definable the risk. If Comcast thinks that it shouldn't be out any money from the get-go, then fine.
But I find it fascinating that Comcast would prefer no regulation of its business practices, keep its franchise monopoly, have the ability to set rates at its own discretion, and yet not actually take any risk to offer a service which would not add significantly to its infrastructure costs. Business traffic would, for the most part, be high when residential traffic is relatively low. The approach of putting a standing offer in congregated environments (twenty-plus entities in one building), as opposed to the same twenty entities along a quarter mile of street front, just seems like it would make sense.
Of course, for whatever reason it may be that the cable companies aren't interested in actually competing with the telcos for business services. Put up an offer, pick low hanging fruit, and find the idiots who would drop large coin to get a non-competitively priced service. Sounds like a huge winner to me.
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rody_44
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join:2004-02-20
Quakertown, PA
·Comcast
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comcast only tunnels in rare circumstances. they dont do it for residential neigborhoods. that costs big bucks to do and im guessing you have lots of blacktop and thats why. if you really think its to much money and you can do it so much cheaper go ahead and run 2 inch conduit to the pole and then call them back for another survey. tunneling would be directional bore or missileing the whole job. in any case expect it to be to the tune of 20 bucks or more a foot for just the conduit. |
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awluck
join:2000-05-24
Duluth, GA
1 edit | So I've got a client that's a tenant in a five story office building. Building in a very small office park (one building) bordered by two main streets, both with Comcast Cable infrastructure hanging from the poles.
Call Comcast, asking for business HSI as a redundant connection (have Bellsouth Fast Access).
They do a site survey. $7k. Apparently 1000 ft of tunneling, or whatever. BS. Now, I could throw a baseball and hit traffic in either street from the building.
I don't understand the philosophy. The building has been there at least ten years. They could have been ahead of the game just to run a trunk up to it when under construction.
As is, the guy is going to go over to the building and ask if any other tenant is interested in HSI. I'm thinking that Comcast is so screwed up that they've done this at least once a year forever. They don't get any takers because the first taker is out some huge bucks, and the follow-ons don't spend diddly. So who in the heck would ever want to be first in?
New neighborhood goes in, Comcast drops trow and wires the neighborhood. Got to cost a lot of money. Hard to believe their take up for service is so much better in residential than business, if the service if competent.
Oh well, guess he'll do his walk around, find no other takers, and say $7K.
He said they also offered another technology. Why would I want to get something from them that isn't their core competency?
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