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Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

The other one was getting too long, so here's a new thread.

I've created this thread and made it sticky so it always stays on top.

ALL cap discussions from here on out will be contained in this one thread.

If you want to know why you were capped, here.
If you want to know how to not get capped, here.
If you want to complain about the OOL caps and how horrible they are, here.
If you want to defend the caps, here.

If you want to discuss this thread policy, not here. Send me an IM and I'll be happy to discuss it.

I promise you I am not trying to stifle discussion of the subject (I think that's pretty clear from my actions to date). I am just trying to restore sanity to this forum by keeping this all in one place, so it doesn't overtake everything else.

Please post everything related to the new OOL capping procedure in this thread.

Thank you.
Lex

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

I can't believe this topic has gone on for years

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And, for those that wish to refer back to the previous discussions, they are available here:

»Capping Discussion Here Only (12/20/2002)
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 2 (02/11/2003)
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 3 (05/19/2003)
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 4 (09/02/2003)
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 5 (03/13/2004)
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 6 (01/17/2005)

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Please, Lex, can't we just let this thing die? The same old stuff over and over again.
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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by Irish Shark See Profile :

Please, Lex, can't we just let this thing die? The same old stuff over and over again.
Don't read this thread, I don't

It still comes up all the time and I'd rather it be here than have numerous threads throughout the forum.

I'm also surprised to see that this topic is well over 3 years old. Time flies.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

I know why the thread is here and it sure cuts down on the mod time to consolidate/lock dupe threads.

It is just that there is nothing new that has not been said 100 times before. It also has turned into a stage for posters that post stuff that is completely OT.
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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by Irish Shark See Profile :

I know why the thread is here and it sure cuts down on the mod time to consolidate/lock dupe threads.

It is just that there is nothing new that has not been said 100 times before. It also has turned into a stage for posters that post stuff that is completely OT.
elaborate more on that please.
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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by LiberalKing See Profile :

said by Irish Shark See Profile :

I know why the thread is here and it sure cuts down on the mod time to consolidate/lock dupe threads.

It is just that there is nothing new that has not been said 100 times before. It also has turned into a stage for posters that post stuff that is completely OT.
elaborate more on that please.
No need to. If you don't understand it, just NM.
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Are there still caps with the boost service? They advertise web hosting.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

yes there is capping with BOOST. LOL have you heard how much speed they give you for web-hosting? i hope you dont think you will be using your 2Mb upload for webhosting.
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plasticsword

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

i had a bad sad week.....my first capping in OOL which i just know about capping ?..
i have my first lousy experience with OOL--ok
now if i get boost still may be capped or not.
what to do to avoid capping ?
help pls,
i hate this call from ool

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by plasticsword See Profile :

i had a bad sad week.....my first capping in OOL which i just know about capping ?..
i have my first lousy experience with OOL--ok
now if i get boost still may be capped or not.
what to do to avoid capping ?
help pls,
i hate this call from ool
The only way to avoid being capped is to not use your connection, that is what Cableviaion is striving for. If you can get FIOS jump on it. I dropped OOL for DSL. Depending on how far you are from the Verizon switch DSL may work for you.
plasticsword

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

I think i should do that.. thanks for the advice.
really its hurting me they never say no to pay the bill or capping it..

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said by jtm297 See Profile :

Are there still caps with the boost service? They advertise web hosting.
There is a very special cap on port 80. Cablevision side step slight of hand.

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figures What if someone had a really popular website and pointed the domain to their home computer, I guess they'd be capped quickly.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by jtm297 See Profile :

figures What if someone had a really popular website and pointed the domain to their home computer, I guess they'd be capped quickly.
Port 80 the http port comes pre capped. Use it all you want.
USteppin

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From skimming thru these 6 threads for the past couple days it seems that there's no definitive answer to this problem. I saw alot of things mentioned that the cap kicks in with the amount of time your uploading and not the amount of gigs your uploading. How many gigs a month are most of you uploading without getting capped?
Anyone have any suggestions on what kind of speed limits to setup with a bandwidth manager program, or scheduler that's built into some torrent programs, aka: alternating the hours and days that your uploading, does limiting the speed from 120 to 50 or something lower actually do anything to prevent the cap.

Thanks for any help.
The Patriot

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

unfortunately, that is top secret for CV, people are on the right track, but can only speculate as far as what the exact guidelines are...truth is, the tech support guy on the other end does not even know, only the very few that call you back to uncap....
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Capping probably affects 1% of the OOL customers. You can use your upload just don't expect to upload for 24+ hours non-stop at max upload speed. I upload a lot but I have the max upload at 50KB. Capping is really no big deal...don't see why this thread is still around.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

because CV get new customers. and how annoying it would be when the new B`s start making threads left and right about why their upload is so slow.
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said by Rasstar See Profile :

...don't see why this thread is still around.
Did you read the first post? If you did you would not ask.
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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by batterup See Profile :

said by Rasstar See Profile :

...don't see why this thread is still around.
Did you read the first post? If you did you would not ask.
This post about the thread about capping should be moved to the thread ABOUT the thread about capping, not in the actual thread about capping.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by qakbiggs See Profile :

said by batterup See Profile :

said by Rasstar See Profile :

...don't see why this thread is still around.
Did you read the first post? If you did you would not ask.
This post about the thread about capping should be moved to the thread ABOUT the thread about capping, not in the actual thread about capping.
No it belongs in this leper colony so as not to infect the entire board.

Kargath254

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So what would everyone here suggest are good upload caps to avoid being capped again in the future? What have you guys found that works for you?

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by Kargath254 :

So what would everyone here suggest are good upload caps to avoid being capped again in the future? What have you guys found that works for you?
It is a crap shoot. Much depends on how over sold your node is.

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It's a non-issue for most people. Don't worry about it, just use your connection the way you want in a legal, courteous, and reasonable manner. If you get capped, just call up and get uncapped.

Look at this thread:

7 days, 21 posts (5 from one person), 0 people reported being capped.
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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by jaa See Profile :

It's a non-issue for most people. Don't worry about it, just use your connection the way you want in a legal, courteous, and reasonable manner. If you get capped, just call up and get uncapped.

Look at this thread:

7 days, 21 posts (5 from one person), 0 people reported being capped.
What thread are you looking at. This particular thread has been going of for well over three years and the number of posts can not be numbered, they are as the stars in the sky or grains of sand on all of the beaches of the world.

I wonder of Cablevision is holding off on the caps until after New Jersey decides how to franchise cable TV.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

CV still capping .I just recently got uncapped and by the end of the week .Bam!They put the brakes back on.Here in South Amboy the network cant handle a consistent upload of anything close to there promised speeds.
majortom1981

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Jaa is talking about this thread alone. The other thread (dont twist my words around) had evry little people complaining of caps just alot of useless cv bashing.

I don't use bit torrent but i do upload occasionally and i have not gotten capepd once.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by majortom1981 See Profile :

Jaa is talking about this thread alone. The other thread (dont twist my words around) had evry little people complaining of caps just alot of useless cv bashing.

I don't use bit torrent but i do upload occasionally and i have not gotten capepd once.
Then why are you posting in the capping thread? I came here because of Cablevision applying the secret cap to my service and the heavy handed Cablevision uncapping process.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

i been uploading at full speed for like 3 weeks 24 hours a day 7 days a week and no cap
xirian
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text.txt 88,158 bytes
docsdiag
Last Result:
Download Speed: 4223 kbps (527.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 139 kbps (17.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

I can't remember which line shows the cap, but heres a docsdiag. I signed up with ool after boost became available and im on the boost tier.

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majortom1981

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batterupp you should not be in this thread at all then. You dont even have cablevision service.
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Problems with perceived trolling should be handled via [hey mod], not by posting flames in the forums.
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majortom1981

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why does it look like i work for cablevision. just because i try to stop the lies that people post doesnt mean anything.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by majortom1981 See Profile :

why does it look like i work for cablevision. just because i try to stop the lies that people post doesnt mean anything.
You are a Cablevision apologist and everyone can see it. I speak for freedom of choice, you speak for Jim Dolan.
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I don't work for CV. In fact other then field techs doing work here or when I went to a sales office to exchange a modem, I have never even met anyone who works for CV.
majortom1981

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Batterup. I don't work for cablevision. I will defend lightpath though.

IF they were so bad the north shore health system wouldnt have just signed with them.

I dont want to hear about lightpath sucks and they should have went with verizon fiber.

I am currentlyu using verizon viber and its down every other day.

Ihalf of them have been due to verizon accidently removing the card for my building. How do you provide a business service and have that happen all the time?

Also verizon business fiber is different then fios I might add.

IF we work for cv then you work for verizon. Every time we bring up something verizon did wrong you ignore it.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by majortom1981 See Profile :



IF we work for cv then you work for verizon. Every time we bring up something verizon did wrong you ignore it.
This is not the Verizon capping thread. Verizon does not cap. Go to the Verizon area and spread your Cablevision propaganda.

Light Path may very well be a good service, Cablevision uses Verizon to supply it.
majortom1981

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Lol exactly batterup you just admitted you are a verizon fanboy.

I am using verizon to show that they are just as bad. You deny it.

You are a true fanboy. You thing verizon are gods. They are not. I use verizon in a business setting and they are the worst isp I have ever delt with in my life.

Thank you for admiting that you are a fanboy (or girl)
The Patriot

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

And Why do you defend lightpath as if someone is talking about a family member?

You defend them so vigorously yet you use Verizons service that you are paying for and you can't stand? your using it to prove they are just as bad? as bad as who...Lightpath?
and who are you proving this too, yourself? doesn't add up to me.....

If Lightpath is renting from Verizon, yet Verizon sucks in your eyes, how is lightpath any better? do they use better equipment, is it really laid out any differently?

If you are trying to reverse any lies, you are not doing a great job because you are too one sided in your comments, and Lightpath is the greatest thing since the wheel in your eyes...so what if North Shore signed with them, doesn't mean a thing....
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Lightpath is renting space from verizon. Not service.

We all know that verizon rents out space at there COs.

You and batterup cant get through your heads that Lightpath is different from CV's home section.

Would you like me to post pictures of the horrid verizon fiber service?

I can also post tapes of what the verizon employees told me that a technician accidently removed a card for our service.

Just admit that you and batterupp are evrizon famboys.

If lightpath is so bad then the long island jewish and north shore health system would have not have chosen lightpath for there new network.

When will you stop lumping lightpath with there home system .

You get different support and you get fiber right to your building and computer room.

Batterup keeps complaining about lightpath when it has nothing to do with optimum online.

I will defend lightpath because i have used them. I am currently using verizons fiber service and I am having a horrid experience with them.

I am expecting to get attacked by these two (the patriot and batterup) because i am having a bad experience with verizon wich goes against the fact that they beleive verizon to be gods.
majortom1981

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I know cv's home service needs to completely ditch their customer service. That is what I think the route of all there problems are.

I dont care what people say about there home section. I am trying to clear up the lies that lightpath has the same problems as cablevisions home sectio nand that they stink.

Of course if you want to get business fiber run to your house then it will be expensive. Considering lightpath offers up to 10-Gbit/sec service wich the home service will never see.

here is also a link to a news article stating what I sad before.

»lw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_···141&p=13

Lightpath is actually a direct opposite of what there home section is. Lightpath even took shots at cablevisions home section stating that copper is slow and is outdated.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by majortom1981 See Profile :

Lightpath even took shots at cablevisions home section stating that copper is slow and is outdated.
That is what I have been saying all along, fiber to the premise is the way to go. Thank you for backing me up.
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I have never said that it wasnt.

I have been saying though that in the near future atleast cv's network can keep up.

Their whole network is not coax just from the node to the home.

If lightpath can use the network to give business customers 10 gigabit a second connections it shouldnt be too hard to give more bandwidth to the nodes.

The reason why cablevision doesn't have to change yet is because coax can handle more bandwidth then the cat 3 (i thin kthats what telephone wire is) can hold.

IF you are going to rewire your network then do it with fiber. Cv doesnt have to do that yet.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by majortom1981 See Profile :


IF you are going to rewire your network then do it with fiber. Cv doesnt have to do that yet.
You are correct, until there is competition Cablevision will continue to rape their subscribers.

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14 days, 64 posts (16 from one person who does not have OOL), 1 person reported being capped.

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by jaa See Profile :

14 days, 64 posts (16 from one person who does not have OOL), 1 person reported being capped.
And your point is???

LiberalKing
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werent you and geek the first to derailed the thread?

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by LiberalKing See Profile :

werent you and geek the first to derailed the thread?
Forget it this thread has been de-railed for the last 6 months
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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by Red Dragon See Profile :

said by LiberalKing See Profile :

werent you and geek the first to derailed the thread?
Forget it this thread has been de-railed for the last 6 months
Ya I've notice. It seems that this is no longer the OOL Capping thread, it's now buttercups ranting page. Funny thing, most of the post are from a person that doesn't have OOL.

Xnknown

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anyone know the max that u can seed on bittorrent before getting capped?

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Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

said by Xnknown :

anyone know the max that u can seed on bittorrent before getting capped?
It depends on how over-sold your node is. If you read the posts in this thread, that are as numerous as the stars on a cloudless night, you will see that there are many opinions but no facts.
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