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majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

reply to Lex Luthor
Re: Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7

I know cv's home service needs to completely ditch their customer service. That is what I think the route of all there problems are.

I dont care what people say about there home section. I am trying to clear up the lies that lightpath has the same problems as cablevisions home sectio nand that they stink.

Of course if you want to get business fiber run to your house then it will be expensive. Considering lightpath offers up to 10-Gbit/sec service wich the home service will never see.

here is also a link to a news article stating what I sad before.

»lw.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_···141&p=13

Lightpath is actually a direct opposite of what there home section is. Lightpath even took shots at cablevisions home section stating that copper is slow and is outdated.


batterup
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·Verizon Online DSL

said by majortom1981 See Profile :

Lightpath even took shots at cablevisions home section stating that copper is slow and is outdated.
That is what I have been saying all along, fiber to the premise is the way to go. Thank you for backing me up.

majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY


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reply to Lex Luthor
I have never said that it wasnt.

I have been saying though that in the near future atleast cv's network can keep up.

Their whole network is not coax just from the node to the home.

If lightpath can use the network to give business customers 10 gigabit a second connections it shouldnt be too hard to give more bandwidth to the nodes.

The reason why cablevision doesn't have to change yet is because coax can handle more bandwidth then the cat 3 (i thin kthats what telephone wire is) can hold.

IF you are going to rewire your network then do it with fiber. Cv doesnt have to do that yet.


batterup
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said by majortom1981 See Profile :


IF you are going to rewire your network then do it with fiber. Cv doesnt have to do that yet.
You are correct, until there is competition Cablevision will continue to rape their subscribers.


jaa
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join:2000-06-13
reply to Lex Luthor
14 days, 64 posts (16 from one person who does not have OOL), 1 person reported being capped.


batterup
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Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL

said by jaa See Profile :

14 days, 64 posts (16 from one person who does not have OOL), 1 person reported being capped.
And your point is???


LiberalKing
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join:2005-09-12
Bronx, NY
reply to jaa
werent you and geek the first to derailed the thread?


Red Dragon
Imagine BBR in 20 years

join:2005-04-30
Scarsdale, NY

said by LiberalKing See Profile :

werent you and geek the first to derailed the thread?
Forget it this thread has been de-railed for the last 6 months
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It only takes the drop of a single domino to set off a chain of a million others.


Xnknown

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reply to Lex Luthor
anyone know the max that u can seed on bittorrent before getting capped?


batterup
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said by Xnknown :

anyone know the max that u can seed on bittorrent before getting capped?
It depends on how over-sold your node is. If you read the posts in this thread, that are as numerous as the stars on a cloudless night, you will see that there are many opinions but no facts.

marvinmets

join:2006-02-08
Oceanside, NY

reply to Red Dragon
said by Red Dragon See Profile :

said by LiberalKing See Profile :

werent you and geek the first to derailed the thread?
Forget it this thread has been de-railed for the last 6 months
Ya I've notice. It seems that this is no longer the OOL Capping thread, it's now buttercups ranting page. Funny thing, most of the post are from a person that doesn't have OOL.


batterup
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·Verizon Online DSL

reply to Lex Luthor
Verizon Seeks FCC Intervention to Free Cablevision's Stranglehold on Sports Programming.
What if Verizon did the same to Cablevision? Cablevision's (not-so)Light Path would be dark fiber.

majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY


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reply to Lex Luthor
I am not going to describe the lightpath situation to you. You wont understand it.

Stop with lightpath. its a completely different and much better service and has nothing to do with this topic.

IF Cablevision doesnt want their teams broadcasted over fios tv they have every right to not let it be broadcast.

They own the teams and those channels so why not.

Thats like a judge tellig you that you have to let your neighbor rob your house.

and for your information verizon can run their services over lightpath fiber too so this has nothing to do with it. Your not a network admin and have no idea how it works..


jwersan
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said by majortom1981 See Profile :

IF Cablevision doesn't want their teams broadcast over fios tv they have every right to not let it be broadcast.

They own the teams and those channels so why not.
Actually they do not have that right. If they only broadcast those channels on the Cablevision system, I would agree, but the minute they allow anyone else the right to broadcast them on their cable system, then they should be forced to allow anyone to broadcast them too, for what they charge everyone else. To block Verizon, is just petty, and CV should be sanctioned by the local franchises and the state, and maybe even the FCC should get involved....
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The Patriot

join:2006-03-17
Syosset, NY

It is just CV crying again when they sense any competition, they do this over and over....oh and they will have to eventually provide them channels through mediation of course.....and Verizon will win in the end. What is CV so afraid of...a little competition?
Why don't they just let the best man win if they are so great...because they don't want you to have a choice, and know that they only stand to lose customers with Verizon in town...question is how much will they lose?

Their already is a law against a TV company owning sports franchises and claiming you can only watch them through paying for our service...I think I'll ask Kate Murray, she knows what it is...as mentioned, if they are already being broadcast through any other system or service...they already lost, but of course they will try to delay Verizon obtaining it for as long as they possibly can.

majortom, if you only had a clue about what you were saying at times instead of having your head so far up Lightpaths butt

majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

reply to Lex Luthor
The Patriot I had the actual service. I have personally used lightpath and verizon fiber.

Verizon is so bad they are using my networking room as a co for huntington village.

We are not getting paid for it and we dont get our t1's for free. They are using our space(wich we actually are needing) and our power and we get nothing in return.

Verizon is not all its cracked up to be either. I have had a lot les sproblems with lightpath then with verizon.

Why are you and batterup on the cv board in the first place.

If lightpath was so bad an important service like the hospitals would have not just hired them to be there providers. They chose lightpath over your precious verizon. That has to be good for something.

Have you actually used those two services (verizon business fiber not there fios). I have . I Am talkign from actuall experiences with the two services.

I have no problems at all with my ool connection. Even during the times when there is supposed to be high traffic. I have never once gotten capped.

So go ahead bash me all you want but you are the ones looking like fools. You think just because you had bad service that all cv customers will have bad service.

also ThePatriot. I have family that works for CVl. They enjoy working there. Not everybody is a disgruntled employee like you.

Also if you have even seen any news from the past 5 or 6 years verizon isnt so good with unions either. I think it was 2003 they fired a whole bunch of union employees and some aprts of the verizon network went down because of it.

I just dont udnerstand why you two are even here. You do not help at all and just tell everybody to switch.

The Patriot

join:2006-03-17
Syosset, NY

How surprising, Another Lightpath ramble....

I was not disgruntled, I was actually liked and respected by many for all of my time, was respected for my stance as an employee...although I hated every second of it in my last year especially the incompetance of management who only cared about their ASA (Average Speed of Answer)number...

I am just letting some steam loose, that's all for all the time I wasted with them, besides I get a kick out of it....even if it is a year later...was never treated like a slab of meat before, and never had a job that was even close to being as horrible as working for CV was....They are greedy mongers, that want every drop of blood from you for 8 hours a day under a microscope, will provide only what is written in law, unless forced to change by law...They have a casualty list a mile long of really good people, because they just could not perform like machines and adhere to the insanity pushed down from management...they treat everyone like children, like slabs of meat...their is the "A" crowd and all 90% of everyone else was in the "B" crowd and will be climbing a ladder that has it's rails constantly pulled out. You had to be a robot and not care in order to succeed. It was a job without pride, was thankless, and run by complete incompetance. If you didn't comply to the ridiculous system, they hounded you like a hawk. It truly was a nightmare, you feel like a slave, abused and used, and seeing the way they do things on the outside for so long, then getting a taste of the inside, I now know why so many hate this company.......

I knew many more people that work or worked there than you, and they all couldn't stand it, and I, as well as many of them, have moved on to much better and finally feel a need to let people know what this company is all about. I would never have any of my kids work there, or anyone I care for that matter. They have deprived many of a fair system, a job with pride, with honest conditions a chance to make a living with honest raises, a chance to make it past 3 years and maybe even retire... to be the company they should be, but don't want to be because of greed. They keep their workforce down and afraid through bully tactics and some revolving rule from a hat that holds people back or gets them in trouble. They continue to do all this to this day...and quite honestly, you will read many of these stories from employees at just about any cable provider....It's a field that does not know how to treat people fairly and with respect..customer or employee and is in desperate need of organization.

www.comcastwatch.com
»ooltech.blogspot.com/
»www.cablevisiontechsneedrespect.com/

majortom1981

join:2004-08-26
Lindenhurst, NY

reply to Lex Luthor
I have also talked to a lot of x verizon employees that feel the same way about verizon but yet you keep telling everybody to switch to them.

explain that.

I actually talked to a lightpath employee who did the fiber installs. He switched to lightpath for many of the same reasons why you quit cablevision.

You and batterup keep going on and on on how bad cablevision is . You dont even take into account all the people who have no problems with there service.

Batterup has never even used lightpath service before but constantly lumps it in the same as their home service.

I am only trying to say 2 things.

1. Lightpath is not as bad as cablevisions home service.

2. Verizon is not the gods that you and batterup think they are and have many of the same problems that cablevision has.


batterup
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·Verizon Online DSL

reply to majortom1981
said by majortom1981 See Profile :

IF Cablevision doesnt want their teams broadcasted over fios tv they have every right to not let it be broadcast.

Thats like a judge tellig you that you have to let your neighbor rob your house.

Wow you are totally ignorant of the way things are. The guberment has its hands into the business up to its elbows. Verizon is forced to give away space in it Central Office to Cablevision and Cablevision is forced to let Verizon carry the sports channels. If you would read and head the law you would not embarrass yourself with blatantly false reasoning and statements.


batterup
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reply to jwersan
said by jwersan See Profile :

Actually they do not have that right.
The 1992 Cable Act forbids the illegal acts Cablevision is engaging in. Cablevision may be able to cow its subscribers into accepting secret capping but it is up against the 800lb Gorilla in this matter.
quote:
The 1992 Cable Act represented a significant reregulation of the cable industry. In the years between 1986 and 1992, rates for the basic tier of cable channels had risen on average by 40 percent, almost 3 times as much as the Consumer Price Index. Also, cable appeared to have no real local competition. A final concern was that the cable industry had become vertically integrated--that is, the cable operators and cable programmers often had common ownership. ........
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