Bobby_Peru
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Re: What about the anti-corporate astroturfers?
Yes, Karl Bode  , good point! Now, have you got a spare inflatable penis suite and 13D shoes?  
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Bobby_Peru
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said by TKJunkMail :What about the anti-corporate astroturfers? Common Cause lists "astroturfers" who are organizations backed by corporate money that they say lobbies deceptively for corporate interests. But I don't see them worried about all the left wing organizations funded by George Soros and the Hollywood lefties and their ilk with deceptive names pushing an anti-corporate agenda at every opportunity. Those organizations are no more "grass roots" than those they accuse. While there may well be organizations with "anti-corporate agenda"s, most that I am aware of are more "pro-human-beings", and are "anti-corporate" only to the extent that "corporate" has come far from being a governmental (of the people) charter to serve at the pleasure of the government (people), to the present state of being an excuse for far too much isolation from personal responsibility for individual and group (or is that "team") reprehensible behavior. Behavior which all too often also rises beyond the threshold of civil and criminal transgressions, and yet is reflexively defended by muddle-headed "free-market" (doesn't exist here, and would be a brutal and nasty place, if it did) dogma.
Sadly, this is similar, and often much more than co-incidental, to the theft and co-opting of "Patriot". Neither of these terms belongs solely to those that most often reflexively wrap themselves in them, perhaps because there is an otherwise deficiency of reasonable, rational, humane argument to latch on to.
It's not "Anti-corporate", nor "Anti-Globalization", but anti-anti non-stockholder people, and the quality of their lives.
Blind faith (by anyone, in anything) is a very very dangerous thing in a supposed Constitutional Democratic Republic.
If Soros, and others, are guilty of this, I would likewise hold them to account.
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Well there is the "Yes-Men":
»www.theyesmen.org/
They go around posing as WTO reps suggesting slavery be re-instated (among other hijinks), and the industry leaders in the audience applaud. Anything to nudge up that stock price. |
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Bobby_Peru
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said by Karl :
... There are no consumer groups dressing up as incumbents, pretending to foist a point-of-view upon the public that isn't genuine. How can one be so sure? This might actually explain the otherwise apparently demented actions of many present officials. If untrue, it's a brilliant idea, none-the-less, and sounds a bit like an Upright Citizens Brigade sketch.
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I think you're confusing 527 partisan smear-combat with this issue.
This issue isn't about partisan politics, it's about honest discourse and misleading the public.
There are no consumer groups dressing up as incumbents, pretending to foist a point-of-view upon the public that isn't genuine. |
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|  What about the anti-corporate astroturfers?
Common Cause lists "astroturfers" who are organizations backed by corporate money that they say lobbies deceptively for corporate interests.
But I don't see them worried about all the left wing organizations funded by George Soros and the Hollywood lefties and their ilk with deceptive names pushing an anti-corporate agenda at every opportunity. Those organizations are no more "grass roots" than those they accuse.
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