Ughh
@85.195.x.x
| "Background downloader"
So they say this program is suppose to download pieces of upcoming patches, in the background, while playing. Naive idea---considering their bitorrent client has no upload limits and absolutely chokes asynchronous connections to death---but I can see why some people would want it.
Now to the real problem. They said it could be disabled in the preferences. No problem! Disabled it in the preferences, yet it still launches. Then they post a sticky in the support forums asking us to apply registry fixes as "the solution." No problem! I looked them over, and then applied it... yet it still launches. Now supposedly the solution is to move the file to a different folder (or rename/delete it). Now I expect that will prevent it from launching, but seriously, wtf? Can't they get anything right. Moving/renaming/deleting a file they put on our computers that should have worked to begin with?
Screw it, I just blocked "Warden" with ProcessGuard while I was at it.
No good faith left. Absolutely none. |
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bpatters69
join:2004-02-09 | I have been having latency issues over the past few weeks. After this last patch, the latency seems to be better but I always suspected that Warden program had something to do with it. How do you identify it and block it?
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Ughh
@85.195.x.x
| I doubt your latency would have anything to do with "Warden" and blocking it is bound to cause more problems like that than it would solve.
If you have ProcessGuard you would start by checking "protect this application from: reading" for all your running processes and unchecking "authorize this application to: read from protected applications" for WoW.exe. You would have to go through the entire list of applications protected with ProcessGuard and set them appropriately, because those advanced options are not setup by default. Now watch your log as WoW.exe systematically tries to read everything and fills up your log.
I'm sure it will still be able to get the names of all the running processes, but if that's all it did in the first place I guess we all know why there are still hackers who go unpunished for months at a time, right? |
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EvilMoose
join:2003-02-26
Urbana, IL | reply to Ughh
Play in Windowed Maximized mode and end its task each time it starts. |
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Kruza
@co.nz | reply to Ughh
This background downloader crashes my router everytime is tries to open in the background causing my internet connection to fail and this disconnecting from WOW.
What crap!. |
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Margolis
Premium
join:2003-11-24
Saint Louis, MO
 ·Charter Pipeline
| said by Kruza :
This background downloader crashes my router everytime is tries to open in the background causing my internet connection to fail and this disconnecting from WOW.
What crap!.
your router or is your firewall program popping up and minimizing the game? If your router fails because of a simple program like that you need a new router. |
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Vectordirect
join:2003-02-09
Rhome, TX | When I was using my Netgear WPN824, any Blizzard title would cause the wireless portion of the router to fail. Switching routers fixed it for me. |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| reply to Margolis
said by Margolis  :your router or is your firewall program popping up and minimizing the game? If your router fails because of a simple program like that you need a new router. Some routers and modems don't handle tons of open and half open connections very well. I've had the blizzard p2p downloader kill my cable modem (it rebooted) when the blizzard downloader opened like 400 outbound connections at once.
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Margolis
Premium
join:2003-11-24
Saint Louis, MO | reply to Ughh
like I said, if that kills your router or modem you need a new one  |
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Vectordirect
join:2003-02-09
Rhome, TX | reply to Morac
Does the Mac version have this same issue? |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| reply to Margolis
said by Margolis :like I said, if that kills your router or modem you need a new one That's a not a very realistic solution because WOW itself doesn't kill the router, it's the P2P download software that does. If someone never uses P2P and only plays WoW they wouldn't need a new router. In any case a large number of connections opened and closed over a short period of time can kill any router/modem unless it is designed to handle large amounts of connections traffic. Its not just the number of open connections, but how many connections per second that are opened and closed. If the P2P app is opening and closing 50 connections per second (which can happen if thousands of people are downloading/uploading at once) it will quickly overflow the NAT table in most home routers. So unless you meant go out and buy a $5000 Cisco router, a new router might may not help.
The problem with the background downloader is that the p2p app may now run at any time while WoW is running whether it is patch day or not.
said by Vectordirect :Does the Mac version have this same issue? The Mac version also includes the P2P client so I think it would. OS X doesn't have the XP enforced speed limit which might make the problem worse if your router/modem can't handle the traffic.
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON | reply to Ughh
This is pure BS. Me and the wife were going to sign up for WOW again this weekend. I won't be signing up now. |
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Margolis
Premium
join:2003-11-24
Saint Louis, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| said by TOPDAWG :This is pure BS. Me and the wife were going to sign up for WOW again this weekend. I won't be signing up now. why is that? there is nothing wrong with game. |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| reply to TOPDAWG
said by TOPDAWG :This is pure BS. Me and the wife were going to sign up for WOW again this weekend. I won't be signing up now. If you are looking for a reason not to join, this isn't it since it can be disabled (though because of a bug, not as easily as Blizzard has documented, but I assume that will be fixed soon).
The main reasons not to sign up is that once you do, the concept of "free time" will become foreign to you. 
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
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March 31st, @03:47PM
| I've played WOW before I just stopped cause I moved. However it seems to stop the up-loader you must delete files or move them that is crap. I won't support a company who goes behind it's users backs and does this crap.
I never got addicted to WOW it's fun but has allot of issues that get on my nerves. |
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| reply to Margolis
Well yes their is it's called sever lag and all that other crap however I can forgive some of that. However when you install a program on a users PC that makes their PC do something they never agreed with that is wrong and I just won't give money to a company like that.
This does not even effect me I can get the update off file planet however I won't give a a company who does this my money. |
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longstreet
join:2004-11-14
Salt Lake City, UT | reply to Ughh
I just block the traffic at my Router.
next thread. |
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Margolis
Premium
join:2003-11-24
Saint Louis, MO
·Charter Pipeline
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April 1st, @12:29AM
| reply to TOPDAWG
said by TOPDAWG : Well yes their is it's called sever lag and all that other crap however I can forgive some of that. However when you install a program on a users PC that makes their PC do something they never agreed with that is wrong and I just won't give money to a company like that. Like somebody said. You really don't like WoW and you are just looking for some lame excuse to try to criticize bliz. There is nothing malicious or performance hindering in WoW.
And what do you mean they install a program that does something you never agreed with? Everything in WoW is agreed to. If you don't want to p2p with the patches you can easily disable p2p patching and just do it solo. There is no problem. It's not hard and doesn't require any downloads or anything else.
what the original poster is complaining about is a new downloader that blizz put in that can download small parts of patches in the background unnoticed while playing. And even that can be disabled if you want. But why? it is saving you time by using unneeded bandwidth while you play. It is actually a very good thing. |
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TOPDAWG
Premium
join:2005-04-27
Midland, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..
| HMM have you been reading the stores on this issue at all? You don't seem to understand whats going on. The issue with this update is after you close the download window your pc is still uploading info for WOW and it's can't be turned off without deleting files or whatever. That is the issue nobody agreed to be a patch server for WOW.
Also why would I hate on WOW WTF is the point of that? |
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Margolis
Premium
join:2003-11-24
Saint Louis, MO
·Charter Pipeline
| said by TOPDAWG :HMM have you been reading the stores on this issue at all? yes, I have read. It can be shut off. Sometimes not as easily as we would have liked. But it can be shutoff.
and I don't know why you would hate WoW. But that is what it seems like to me. You are completely blowing this all out of proportion. It is not a gamebreaking problem. And you haven't even played, so you have no experience on which to back up your point. I have played and know a lot of other people that play and have no complaints or problems about any of this. |
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