 crcole join:2003-01-28 Decatur, GA | Should I Be Concerned About Download Cap My son wants to listen to the local Braves radio affiliate on his computer. (Nightime A.M. radio reception isn't so good here).
My question is: does this type of streaming audio use substantial bandwidth and if he listened to 3 or so games per week lasting maybe 2 1/2 hours each, would that constitute enough download to trigger any reaction from Comcast?
I'm kinda spooked by posts I see where Comcast has sent a letter warning of excessive downloads. I just have no idea what streaming a local radio station to a computer uses with regard to download amounts.
Can anyone enlighten me? We also have a Vonage phone and I guess the download will affect it. But, the bigger issue is with making sure I don't violate the download max. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 1 edit | LOL! No. Stream all the radio you wish... it's nothing!
Alot of radio is 22kbps, that would take a LONG time to add up to anything.
EDIT: What station is it? I'll tell you what they are streaming at.  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 crcole join:2003-01-28 Decatur, GA | Thanks! It's WSB out of Hotlanta. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 1 edit | 750 AM? 23kbps - 3KB/sec... would take a real long time to add up to anything!
Have at it! ~27MB per 2.5 hour game. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 | reply to crcole A lot of times on the weekend I am working on the computer or playing on it all night (yes I have no life) and I have Comcast Rhapsody going all night and they have never said anything about it. |
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 | Most people get letters for 150-600GB/month. You could stream all month long and be safe (Audio that is). |
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 jansm38Vn800-BPremium join:2003-05-19 Blackwood, NJ | The really funny thing is when you ask those people getting the letters what they do with all that bandwidth, the first thing they say is "streaming audio".
We all know that's not what is sucking up all their bandwidth.
said by MrRuckus:Most people get letters for 150-600GB/month. You could stream all month long and be safe (Audio that is). |
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 JTRockvilleData HoPremium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD | reply to crcole Didn't the first person who ever posted in this forum about the download cap get "lettered" because of streaming audio? |
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approval from: dadkins 
| As Dadkins said you can stream all the audio you want and it wont be a problem. The only people running into problems are people usually well over 100 GB a month. i stream audio damn near non stop and have never heard a peep from them about it. we have 3 computers going doing normal surfing, streaming music, vonage works great!, and downloading some large files here and there. also the percentage of people that have received letters at all is so small in comparison to the MILLIONS of customers there are. |
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 delt4500 or BUSTPremium join:2000-07-13 Pittsburgh, PA kudos:1 | reply to dadkins said by dadkins:750 AM? 23kbps - 3KB/sec... would take a real long time to add up to anything! Have at it! ~27MB per 2.5 hour game. Agreed. You could stream 100 of those games and it really doesn't add up to much. |
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 | reply to crcole Oh come on, I literally limit my bandwidth to EXACTLY 20GB per day (adds up to 600GB per month)... and I don't get letters
and keep in mind I literally spend my time downloading every new anime episode that comes out in Japan. Now THAT takes bandwidth. |
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 NerdtalkerWorking Hard, Or Hardly Working?Premium,MVM join:2003-02-18 Tucson, AZ | reply to JTRockville said by JTRockville:Didn't the first person who ever posted in this forum about the download cap get "lettered" because of streaming audio? I think the incident you're referring to was when someone was streaming a couple dozen radio stations and using software to break up songs and save them as mp3s, all automatically.
If I remember correctly, he was doing enough radio stations that it added up to something pretty substantial in the end in terms of bandwidth.
One or two radio stations for a couple of hours isn't going to do nearly as much damage as ~50 or so 24/7. -- "Some people never see the light till it shines thru bullet holes." -Bruce Cockburn
I'm testing Gmail's spam filters: Broadbandreports1@gmail.com Spam: 12900+ messages currently using 406 MB. |
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 JTRockvilleData HoPremium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD | Here's the original: »Comcast Bandwidth Exceeded Notice!!!
It was 5 stations, not a couple dozen. So I guess the streams can eventually be cause for concern. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | #1 that was in 2003...
#2 OP never eludes to what else he was doing with his connection...
I think something was left out of the equation. -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 JTRockvilleData HoPremium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD Reviews:
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| hqh510 estimated 50-100GB in addition to the streams.
So the streams seem to be what pushed hqh510 over the limit. |
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 crcole join:2003-01-28 Decatur, GA | I'm the OP and, wow, I think I'm a bit misunderstood 
Really, my son is looking to listen to about 2 to 3 games a week, late nite, on his computer. He loves the Atlanta braves and we get bad A.M. reception at nite - thus the need for streaming.
No hidden agendas here in my post. I'm not interested in torrents, downloading porn, or being a burden to my neighbors in bandwidth usage.
Just hoping he could listen to the games and still feel like a good citizen of the web. So far, I'm thinking that everything is o.k., although a couple of posts have implied that maybe, just maybe there might be a problem.
I really appreciate the replys. I get a lot of info from this forum. I wish I could find some topic that I could help someone with in return. Let's see - I have Vonage, use a Mac and avoid Microsoft when possible and am passionate about Ga. Tech football. So, I think I'm pretty isolated. |
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approval from: dadkins 
| I agree with dadkins that hqh 51 story about his connections and downloads wasn't complete or his guesstimates on the size of downloads were in error. It's quite preposterous to suggest that normal audio streaming of one source at a time would result in any abuse letters. But then preposterous notions are quite prevalent on this board. as conclusions are often driven by agendas rather than reality or logic. |
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 JTRockvilleData HoPremium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD Reviews:
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| reply to crcole said by crcole:So far, I'm thinking that everything is o.k., although a couple of posts have implied that maybe, just maybe there might be a problem. That's the situation most Comcast customers are in. Not much you can do but guess and hope.
Good luck. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM join:2003-09-26 Hercules, CA kudos:18 | reply to crcole As I stated at the beginning of this thread... 27MB per game will *NOT* push you over any limit!
Tell your son to go ahead and enjoy his games!  -- Think outside the Fox... Opera |
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 JTRockvilleData HoPremium,MVM join:2002-01-28 Rockville, MD | Keep in mind though... "dadkins at BBR's Comcast Forum said it would be ok" probably won't get you too far, just in case it's a wrong guess. |
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