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IT seems this business model is doomed to fail. Who wants to pay twice what retail is on most DVDs and not be able to play them on a stand alone DVD player? This is one of the dumbest things I have heard of yet!
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TKJunkMail
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|  said by toddbs98  : IT seems this business model is doomed to fail. Who wants to pay twice what retail is on most DVDs and not be able to play them on a stand alone DVD player? This is one of the dumbest things I have heard of yet! A couple thoughts on your comments.
I think Hollywood and the MPAA are trying to learn from the music industry being too slow to adapt. Stand alone DVD players are eventually going to die out. Multimedia appliances(multimedia PCs; Xbox 360, etc) are what is coming. Hollywood is just getting ready for the paradigm shift.
Downloading can be more convenient than driving thru traffic to the local mall to get your movies.
One of these 2 firms allows copying to a DVD and running on multiple PCs.
Will this replace the purchased DVD from Wal-Mart now. No, it won't. But it is a first step in recognizing the changes coming and getting ready for them. It is a much smarter response than what the RIAA and the music industry did.
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hopeflicker
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| said by TKJunkMail : Stand alone DVD players are eventually going to die out. Multimedia appliances(multimedia PCs; Xbox 360, etc) are what is coming.
Umm, DVD is going to be around for quite sometime. Especially standalones for TVs. Downloading can be more convenient than driving thru traffic to the local mall to get your movies.
Umm, Not for $20-30. And they say it's dvd quality. So, will this mean the movie will be the exact same size if you were to rip it from a TRUE DVD? It is a much smarter response than what the RIAA and the music industry did.
This is not smarter than the RIAA. The RIAA does let vendors sell most songs for .99. And most of these songs can be played on a good majority of mp3 players unlike you are limited to watching the movies only on computers. --
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GhostDoggy
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Duluth, GA | reply to toddbs98
I think it will only be a matter of time that the middlemen that control the bandwidth from a QoS will implement their own solutions and inhibit performance of 3rd party endeavors. Network neutralness will fail and this will be another victim. |
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KoolMoe
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I tend to agree.
I think the cost is ridiculous and that will be what keeps me away. I also don't like 'playback on one PC'.
But I already have a home-built media center PC hooked up to the widescreen in the family room. I like having DVD rips and home movies on that box. With two kids already, DVDs are constantly scattered about. Time to move away from the hardcopy media.
Let me download a movie for the same price as a rental or, maybe, $10 tops. Let me store it on one server and let me play it back on multiple computers or devices.
I agree being able to burn to DVD would be nice, but I also agree DVD players will fade sooner than later and it's not something I personally really need.
And I don't care about DVD extras. If I did, I'd buy the DVD!
Can't recoup the movie investment from $10 digital movie distribution? Stop paying actors $10 million per movie!
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You don't need to drive to your mall, use amazon/ebay. That's what I would do.
I wouldn't pay into this. Downloading is a great idea, but what if my PC crashes due to HDD failure, then the movies I bought and paid for won't work? Most people I know don't really know what DRM is until they bring their IPod to work, attach it to their work PC and all of their music is gone. Downloading content will never catch on as soon as the less tech savvy realize if their PC crashes their stuff is gone. |
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Kearnstd
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why pay 20-30 bucks for a download when in the time it takes for a download even on 6mbit cable i can drive one mile to walmart or two to Circuit city and buy the DVD for 15 bucks.
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ackman
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said by TKJunkMail :said by toddbs98 : IT seems this business model is doomed to fail. Who wants to pay twice what retail is on most DVDs and not be able to play them on a stand alone DVD player? This is one of the dumbest things I have heard of yet! A couple thoughts on your comments. I think Hollywood and the MPAA are trying to learn from the music industry being too slow to adapt. Stand alone DVD players are eventually going to die out. Multimedia appliances(multimedia PCs; Xbox 360, etc) are what is coming. Hollywood is just getting ready for the paradigm shift. Downloading can be more convenient than driving thru traffic to the local mall to get your movies. One of these 2 firms allows copying to a DVD and running on multiple PCs. Will this replace the purchased DVD from Wal-Mart now. No, it won't. But it is a first step in recognizing the changes coming and getting ready for them. It is a much smarter response than what the RIAA and the music industry did. They also said that desktop computers with high power, memory, and software would die off, to be replaced by network computing. People don't like to lose the control that owning the media will provide. |
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said by TKJunkMail :Stand alone DVD players are eventually going to die out. Will this replace the purchased DVD from Wal-Mart now. No, it won't. I believe that you contradicted yourself in you post. |
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paranoidxe
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said by TKJunkMail :I think Hollywood and the MPAA are trying to learn from the music industry being too slow to adapt. Stand alone DVD players are eventually going to die out. Multimedia appliances(multimedia PCs; Xbox 360, etc) are what is coming. Hollywood is just getting ready for the paradigm shift.
1. Stand Alone DVD players won't be gone for a very long time, after DVD comes HDDVD or BluRay..both which will have STAND ALONE DVD players. Multimedia PCs will NEVER replace TVs/DVD players. I think its pretty funny that they are trying to market this especially since the price is more expensive for what you'd pay for the DVD at the store. --
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said by SLD :said by TKJunkMail :Stand alone DVD players are eventually going to die out. Will this replace the purchased DVD from Wal-Mart now. No, it won't. I believe that you contradicted yourself in you post. Maybe you missed the word EVENTUALLY in the 1st statement. And the word NOW in the second statement. Is English a second language for you?
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KoolMoe
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Never say never.
Computers will never need more than 512k ram!
It will all be digital someday with media servers at neighborhood POPs, if not in individual houses basements. Hard media will eventually be relegated to 'backup media'.
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said by toddbs98 : IT seems this business model is doomed to fail. Who wants to pay twice what retail is on most DVDs and not be able to play them on a stand alone DVD player? This is one of the dumbest things I have heard of yet! you forgot the crappy low kbps these things are.
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Kfedka
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Spokane, WA | reply to toddbs98
Well its a good start, but the wrong idea. I agree about it being stupid, I would add it's luticrous! Wondering if someone is actually going to fall for this. By the way is it based off of torrents for downloads or ftp/http? |
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averagedude
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Next people will need Ipod music insurance or PC movie insurance. One mistake and thousands of dollars could vanish.
With everything on your home entertainment PC, forget ever being able to take that "movie" on the road with you because it was limited to one machine mother board/video card/hard drive combination. Go ahead and try to explain that your mother board failed and caused your video card to fail also and get them to re-authorize all those "movies" on that hard drive. |
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peter_m
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said by KoolMoe :Can't recoup the movie investment from $10 digital movie distribution? Stop paying actors $10 million per movie! LOL, I agree completely with your entire post but particularly with the actor's remuneration. With the quality of movies we've been seeing lately, 10$ is even too much. Has the movie business been saturated and squeezed out of ideas? I would not expect to see salary caps for actors soon but then again look at hockey players and the NHL! You never know!?!
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You are right on the money. I too have a homemade Media Center a used PIII 500 and it beats the crap out of anything the studios, DVR, and broadcast are offering. And the software I use is one of hundreds of solutions, Meedio, MythTV, Knoppmyth, MS Media Centre, GeeXboX, Freevo, SageTV, MythDora, and countless more.
These clowns have to start competing with the techology that is out here NOW not 2001 technology. I can rip every DVD I own, rent, or borrow to my Media Center in some way shape or form no matter what DRM they thow at me. If this is legal or not is pointless, DecSS is out of the bag and it CANNOT be forgotten, Blue-Ray, HD DVD, will be broken just like CSS. When Apple finally decided to stop fighting the .mp3 format and work alongside of it they made a brilliant decision. How many average users know that iTunes can rip in .mp3 ?
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novaflare
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said by KoolMoe :I tend to agree. I think the cost is ridiculous and that will be what keeps me away. I also don't like 'playback on one PC'. But I already have a home-built media center PC hooked up to the widescreen in the family room. I like having DVD rips and home movies on that box. With two kids already, DVDs are constantly scattered about. Time to move away from the hardcopy media. Let me download a movie for the same price as a rental or, maybe, $10 tops. Let me store it on one server and let me play it back on multiple computers or devices. I agree being able to burn to DVD would be nice, but I also agree DVD players will fade sooner than later and it's not something I personally really need. And I don't care about DVD extras. If I did, I'd buy the DVD! Can't recoup the movie investment from $10 digital movie distribution? Stop paying actors $10 million per movie! KM Well like any thing the service will start out much more expensive than what it will be in say 1 or 2 years down the line. Simply put the more people who buy it now the faster the cost will drop.
In the end its the consumer who dictates the price of a thing such as this.
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said by scrummie02 :You don't need to drive to your mall, use amazon/ebay. That's what I would do. I wouldn't pay into this. Downloading is a great idea, but what if my PC crashes due to HDD failure, then the movies I bought and paid for won't work? Most people I know don't really know what DRM is until they bring their IPod to work, attach it to their work PC and all of their music is gone. Downloading content will never catch on as soon as the less tech savvy realize if their PC crashes their stuff is gone. It will probably take this in to account (some type of key or pass word to redownload or somethign of this nature)
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superht1
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said by Kearnstd :why pay 20-30 bucks for a download when in the time it takes for a download even on 6mbit cable i can drive one mile to walmart or two to Circuit city and buy the DVD for 15 bucks. Why pay at all? When a friend or people you know can share with you? Greed is evil.
If we have lots of money to spend and nothing better to do with our time and money then yea paying for movies would make sense.
Movies suck up too much precious time from most of us anyway. I get motion sickness, I don't like watch too much movies.
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