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nixen
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Re: Sign me right up!

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by birdfeedr See Profile :

Unless you have to somehow prove mail was blocked.
Yes, how do you prove you DIDN'T get something. Most people won't even bother trying to get anything out of this settlement. The only ones who will make out will be the lawyers involved.
Depends. If he ruling judge actually wants members of the class to get their due, he would force Verizon to turn over their mail or other logs to determine what got blocked. This, of course, assumes that it was blocked sufficiently late in the SMTP conversation to establish intended recipients and not just blocked at the edge routers.

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birdfeedr
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said by nixen See Profile :

said by TK Junk Mail See Profile :

said by birdfeedr See Profile :

Unless you have to somehow prove mail was blocked.
Yes, how do you prove you DIDN'T get something. Most people won't even bother trying to get anything out of this settlement. The only ones who will make out will be the lawyers involved.
Depends. If he ruling judge actually wants members of the class to get their due, he would force Verizon to turn over their mail or other logs to determine what got blocked. This, of course, assumes that it was blocked sufficiently late in the SMTP conversation to establish intended recipients and not just blocked at the edge routers.

-tom
I don't think VZ ignored emails from suspect IPs, they were bounced back as undeliverable (if I read their amended policy correctly). But they may have ignored some of the emails during that period. Hard to say. Would they have kept the logs this long?


nixen
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said by birdfeedr See Profile :

I don't think VZ ignored emails from suspect IPs, they were bounced back as undeliverable (if I read their amended policy correctly). But they may have ignored some of the emails during that period. Hard to say. Would they have kept the logs this long?
Depends. It would be normal for the judge to order all records kept from the date of the filing of the complaint.

-tom
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"Some people have morals, standards and ideals about quality, but I'm an American: I couldn't care less." --Tony Pierce (paraphrased)
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