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Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
"Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it?"
Thank you for your racist / discriminatory comments move along now.
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Insder
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| Low-income. Okay, let's put this in definition form. It usually means it's an area that has a high crime rate (usually), many people unemployed, and many people on welfare. This isn't racism (I never went against one race, get it right please), nor is it anything else. I'm stating that they don't roll out in communities that they don't think can afford it, using state/federal statistics I assume, just for that reason. If they can't afford the product, why roll it out for a few users. I'm sure they need a good chunk of a city signed up to start profiting from the high-priced install pricing/fiber roll-out costs.
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said by packetscan  : Thank you for your racist comments move along now. Apparently you're the one who equates "low income" with "black". Who's the racist again ?? |
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I don't care if an area is low income they deserve the same services as those in affluent areas.. It's the cost of doing business.
Racism / discrimination is not a justifiable business practice.
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I never said anything of the sort..
Take your generalizations and shove off!
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This is the problem with the education system in this country.
Racism isn't a black and white thing. Racism isn't a green and blue thing. It's about discriminating against someone because of where they live, work, how they eat.
Get an education then come back and post some serious content on the matter.
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said by packetscan :"Do you like money? I sure as hell do. Why would I eat the cost of a high-priced installation, and roll-out fiber in a low-income community that I don't think can afford it?" Thank you for your racist comments move along now. Exactly what about Insider's post was racial? Or are you (packetscan) suggesting that all individuals who live in low income areas are minorities? Or that all welfare recipients are minorities?
Seems to me that insider's post was very factual and made great business sense. But since it is so easy to interject the anti-bush propoganda you liberals like to spew without any sort of proof behind it, I guess we should all just eat the cost. Keep that tin foil hat handy, I think you are going to need it come November.
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Racism, as defined by wikipedia, is "Racism refers to a belief system that advocates discriminating against people based on a perceived or ascribed "race"". I never stated any kind of minority. I understand that Verizon needs to rollout all areas, they get this too. The problem here is, this isn't telephone over copper, where the infrastructure is there. They need to do all new fiber optic cables, which is a high-priced job. If the investors cannot expect a profit soon, or even at all, the whole project is gone. They need to do this in areas that will buy it, and even do a triple-play if they're lucky. They can't roll it out, and have low percentage of the town that CAN afford it, get it. Also, I do not see you complaining about users of DSL that are past 18,000 feet, and thus cannot get DSL. Large parts of low-income towns without a nearby DSLAM are like this. It's all business, and since FIOS isn't yet government regulated like telephone over copper, it's Verizon's call. I agree with them in the sense that they can make a very good profit in higher-income areas with more users to subscribe. It's not any type of racism (never mentioned race either), it's all about who can and cannot afford it. Verizon looks at statistics, just like I can, and I'm sure they decide where to roll out based on subscriber base. So go shove your racist accusations somewhere else, because it's sure as hell not wanted here.
Edit: Add in a few missed words, for clarity.
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What does not screwing poor people have to do with being liberal you prick.
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| They're not getting screwed, I'm saying that the whole point of them rolling it out is for profit, it's simple business. If they can't expect a profit, then they need to roll out in areas where they can get a profit, so the lower-income areas will be able to have it, and thus they can have it done and at a slight loss.
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Packet - it's nice to be affluent. Try it sometime. Pound sand with your racism comment. Or wait around and have some affirmative action committee design some kind of program to make you some kind of victim. You can have someone feel sorry for you then. Get somebody else to buy you the sand and then another somebody else to buy you something to pound it with. |
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Listen you little Prick..
While all my friends on the other side of town had dsl i had nothing.. Then Optonline came to town and wired the ENTIRE town. Everyone that could afford it had the service. My parents busted their asses to give my brother and i everything they could. I want to make sure that people like me have access to services just like the other side of town.
Get it now?
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Wow, give me a sad story. So, if you're so poor, where'd you pull the money for premium BBR (something I don't even have?). Also, I'm pretty sure if you had cable television, then Opt Online didn't have to "wire" the whole town, the wires were there, they just had to light it up. Plus the fact that coax is a lot cheaper than fiber optic cabling, the same goes for installs (modem vs. ONT/BBU/free router). Fiber Optics costs more to deploy (someone tell me if I'm wrong, please). Nobody is going to feel sorry, and it's sad to say, the world is run on business. If Verizon wants a profit, they have to go somewhere where the residents can afford and pay for their high-end services (10 for dial-up vs. 40 for FIOS). It's a fact of life. There is no racism here, I'm not saying it sucks that you were poor or whatever, I just don't think that matters because business is money, and money is something most low-income cities don't have.
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packetscan
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Re: Martin: outrageous lies, deception of public and fat checks
11 posts? And I'm the noob..
*shakes head*
Please act in a more mature manner for the greater good of the forum.
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packetscan
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So everyone from my area is poor?
Franklin University!
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said by packetscan :11 posts? And I'm the noob.. *shakes head* Please act in a more mature manner for the greater good of the forum. Calling him a scumbag didn't help get your point across. |
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said by Insder :They're not getting screwed, I'm saying that the whole point of them rolling it out is for profit, it's simple business. If they can't expect a profit, then they need to roll out in areas where they can get a profit, so the lower-income areas will be able to have it, and thus they can have it done and at a slight loss. Still missing the point..
It's illegal to discriminate.
It's illegal to discriminate because of income.
It's illegal to discriminate because of race
It's ...... Get the point yet?
Everyone is equal..
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| said by packetscan :It's illegal to discriminate. It's illegal to discriminate because of income. It's illegal to discriminate because of race Everyone is equal.. Well you got 1 out of 4 right.
It is illegal to discriminate based on race. The others aren't illegal. And the idea that everyone is equal is only in the dreams of commies.
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