Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs: | To far behind already?
I think we are to far behind to come back anytime soon. It would take many years to recover from this kind of position. |
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wvcaver
join:2005-04-17
Millersburg, OH | I am going to forward this to the FCC  |
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Cheese
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Naples, FL
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| said by wvcaver  :I am going to forward this to the FCC Please do, maybe, JUST MAYBE, it will light a fire under their ass, but I won't hold my breath  |
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Karl Bode
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April 3rd, @06:32PM
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I don't think it would be that hard, but it would require steps that share-holders and free-market fans wouldn't like.
That would include government involvement in the infrastructure process, including setting deployment water-marks (and actually enforcing them), correcting the corruption in the USF system and perhaps expanding its function (not just eliminating it), and not kowtowing to telco & cable lobbyists at every turn.
None of that will ever happen, as the political system now serves the will of the largest incumbents, not the public. |
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Cheese
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| said by Karl Bode :I don't think it would be that hard, but it would require steps that share-holders and free-market fans wouldn't like. That would include government involvement in the infrastructure process, including setting deployment water-marks (and actually enforcing them), correcting the corruption in the USF system and perhaps expanding its function (not just eliminating it), and not cow-towing to telco & cable lobbyists at every turn. None of that will ever happen, as the political system now serves the will of the largest incumbents, not the public. Well said. |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | Also putting a technologist at the head of the FCC instead of an empty-headed think-tank deregulatory drone would be a good move as well. |
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rawgerz
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April 3rd, @06:38PM
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Exactly, I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's too little, too late. Our digital future was sold out a long time ago.
When a group of people larger than the special interest groups decides to make an appearance and fight for us, only then will we bounce back but we will never catch up.
Money comes first, and people and the country's infrastructure comes 2nd.. or never
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rawgerz
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April 3rd, @06:42PM
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The FCC is either stupid, ignorant, or has other interests. Any of which is not a good mix.. Or maybe they're too swamped in other involvements, it would be nice to see a group dedicated to the broadband issue that is closely watched for bribes and IQ of what they actually are ment for
Actually, after seeing Their 'report' with the quote 'The U.S. is doing exceptionally well.', It's obvious they're stupid as hell, unless they based this on country's with OUT any infrastructure
But good luck
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RayW
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Layton, UT
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said by Karl Bode :None of that will ever happen, as the political system now serves the will of the largest incumbents, not the public. It has for many years, as long as the 'incumbents' keep paying.....And as Clinton found out, foreign countries pay too for special favors.
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Dydion
join:2001-03-07
Baton Rouge, LA
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That's right. Only when some company has a marvelous patent and stands to make a billion dollars overnight will the US see some real progress...until the CEO decides to retire with a multi-billion dollar package, and all the other top dogs take the money and run...
...then we will be back at the drawing board. The US is screwed, face it. Our politicians and greedy-ass corporations will forever sell us out for their own short term gains. We're a joke to the world and will never recover. |
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brooklynman4
join:2004-09-07
Brooklyn, NY | The fcc will post that email in the lunchroom for there amusment. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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said by Karl Bode :Also putting a technologist at the head of the FCC instead of an empty-headed think-tank deregulatory drone would be a good move as well. I agree with everything you just said but I'm sure you also know that these things never gonna happen - unless we disband this rotten FCC and forget it forever. We need a completely different communication market approach.
Sorry, we tried this - during last decades it didn't work out, by now it's completely ridden by corruption. Kill it. |
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packetscan
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Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | i'm not sure about total disassemble #5..
But Serious Chances need to be made. I can agree to that.
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jimbo2150
join:2004-05-10
Youngstown, OH
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said by Karl Bode :...would include government involvement... Good luck.
Our current government could't give a $#*$ about the 'people'. As long as businesses are putting the green where the politician's dog-dishes are, they will obediently play to the corporations' demands.
At this point in the game the only ones helping the people are themselves. By mass protests (already seen), billions of letters and petitions (already signed), and violent gatherings (still contained to Paris, but Im sure its on the way).
I don't know about you, but I think we need a change of adminstration. One that will not pat itself on the back for a job well done (or not done as the case may be).
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jimbo2150
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said by Dydion :...marvelous patent and stands to make a billion dollars overnight... Believe me, if something that miraculous was to be invented tomarrow... consumers wouldnt see it for at least another 3 decades.
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MeanPeepsSuk
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April 4th, @10:30AM
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said by rawgerz :The FCC is either stupid, ignorant, or has other interests. Any of which is not a good mix.. Or maybe they're too swamped in other involvements, it would be nice to see a group dedicated to the broadband issue that is closely watched for bribes and IQ of what they actually are ment for Actually, after seeing Their 'report' with the quote 'The U.S. is doing exceptionally well.', It's obvious they're stupid as hell, unless they based this on country's with OUT any infrastructure But good luck Seems the FCC is all three, rawgerz. I still remember the information super bahn Gore was touting and promised in the early 90s (anyone else remember that?). My area (NJ) was supposed to part of the initial deployment schedules.. Millions on millions were promised 45Mg fiber by 2000 (est. 85M from the site below). NJ, 100% fiber by 2010. All to be paid for (and was) by higher rates, etc.. through deals with the FCC and government agencies that be.
If all that came through as promised, the US was supposed to be the leader in Broadband.
I often wondered what happened with that all.. and came across this site doing some research on it recently. I am not affiliated with them, or anything like that.. But found the background interesting enough to pass on, considering I clearly remember many of the milestones they spoke of. (Even so, the site wants you to buy their book, so take that for what it's worth).
The statement from the FCC just makes me go, "WTF are you talking about?".
Spin it, FCC. Spin it.
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idjk
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It is not just the FCC -try to place fiber in the ground and you have all local governments plus the EPA in your pocket- then the are the tree huggers 'who sometime are right' so it is hard to compare USA with third world or not where there are less hoops to jump thru.
Also USA got in this early so it is a replacement not new which means you pay for it twice. |
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