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YeOldeStonecat
join:2001-03-19
Groton, CT
| reply to d_l
Re: [General] BEFSX41 / Siemens 4100 DSL Modem problem and solut
said by d_l  :Sorry, I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Bridging prevents fast access to the modem's GUI. How does it prevent fast access to the modems GUI? | |
d_l
Barsoom
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join:2002-12-08
Reno, NV
| reply to YeOldeStonecat
Sorry, I'll have to disagree with you on that one. Bridging prevents fast access to the modem's GUI. If you have a stable DSL line, that you don't need line stats or can get them at your leisure by recabling, then it would be ok, but when it is absolutely necessary to catch a transient DSL problem or run a continuous scan on line conditions, then bridging won't cut it. | |
YeOldeStonecat
join:2001-03-19
Groton, CT
| reply to Mountaineer1
said by Mountaineer1 :said by YeOldeStonecat :The method I use always worked for me in the past...doing another one today, another one next week...//shrug Which method is that,by the way? My reply up 6 posts....bridge the modem, let the router be the only NAT device, and the router does PPPoE if required. | |
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join:2002-01-12
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| reply to YeOldeStonecat
said by YeOldeStonecat :The method I use always worked for me in the past...doing another one today, another one next week...//shrug Which method is that,by the way?
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YeOldeStonecat
join:2001-03-19
Groton, CT
| reply to Cycoz
said by Cycoz :
YeOldeStonecat, You summed it up as the right way to do it, BUT as graffixjones was mentioning; is that there seems to be a problem with the 4100 and befsx41 router specifically. Im sure what you posted works 99 percent of the time with other routers.
The method I use always worked for me in the past...doing another one today, another one next week...//shrug | |
efrem
join:2002-04-03
Westport, CT
| reply to Cycoz
Have encountered the same problem here, too.
Speedstream 4100 just decides to no longer communicate with the router. Have tried other routers, both Linksys and non-Linksys, so this is not a BEFSX41 issue.
As reported by previous posters, this is an intermittent problem to the extent that we can occasionally get it all up and running for a few minutes, but once the LAN side of the 4100 locks up we are back to trying to find some mystical combo of device startup order and dumb luck.
Have flashed the firmware on the 4100 from .48 to .53, have tried all iterations of PPPoE location on modem/router, public vs private IP, etc................
Have even added static route in the router, to modem, and the problem still recurs.
The 4100's WAN side certainly appears to hold the connection to SBC/ATT, but the LAN interface just dies. Can't even ping the 192.168.0.1.
SBC/ATT tech supp has not been helpful at all. They have refused requests to swap for another modem.
Have run out of ideas and patience for SBC/ATT, and am about to suggest switching to cable.
Any ideas? This whole thread probably belongs in an SBC forum, according to our experience.
Thanks. | |
Cycoz
@rr.com
| reply to YeOldeStonecat
YeOldeStonecat, You summed it up as the right way to do it, BUT as graffixjones was mentioning; is that there seems to be a problem with the 4100 and befsx41 router specifically. Im sure what you posted works 99 percent of the time with other routers.
I to have spent 6 hours, 2 calls to the sbc guy who installed the dsl, 2 calls to the sbc tech support, and 1 call to linksys to try and solve this issue to no avail I might add.
Leaving he modem in default -allows 1 pc to get online perfectly. If you install the linksys router behind it, the router receives the WAN ip and gateway, but has the modems ip as the DNS numbers(192.168.0.1).
I put the modem in bridge mode, with router behind it, set router up to PPPoe with login, pass, keep active, and put in sbcglobal.net in the domain name. Like graffixjones mentioned with this setup, if your lucky, you may get to one or two sites, then nothing. Talk about frustrating.
I put the modem in "in computer" mode and it was pretty much the same as in bridge mode. The funny thing is, is I could reach google, and search it, searches came up, but then could not access a single website. I could ping any ip or url through the cmd propt.
Im going to try what graffixjones did with the private ip setting and see if this works. I don't recall seeing the setting private ip tho, im going by memory here. Is this a seperate setting? What do you set the modem to default, in computer or bridge? In saying set modem to negotiate pppoe is this the first setting on the modem connection?
thanx | |
YeOldeStonecat
join:2001-03-19
Groton, CT
| reply to tommythecool
said by tommythecool :
Hey guys....here is a simple soloution, when u are trying to connect the Seimens 4100 with the linksys wrt54g. I called linksys, and here is what they told me to do, it is simple, efficient and shouldnt take you 15 minutes. Connect the cables correctly from your modem to the router, and power everything on. You will lose your connection for a few minutes. Now, instead of running the Linksys Install disc, which fails all the time, open internet explorer,and in the address bar type in 192.168.1.1. Now it will ask you for a user name and password, but the only problem is....you dont have one! I found a simple way to work around it. Leave the username field blank, and type in admin for your password. make sure your siemens is set for pppoe before you do this. Now, you can manually configure your linksys to work with your siemens 4100. CHange your linksys to pppoe settings, make a username and password, and last but not least, click on the wireless security tab, and configure it to your liking. Its that simple.
By default just about all of the Linksys home grade routers have the username and the password as "admin"...I don't see why the Linksys tech though this was your big solution. It's all easily found by referring to the instructions of your Linksys product.
Now...leaving the ISP supplied product such as the Speedstream 4100 doing your PPPoE, and...trying to have your Linksys router do PPPoE...is not a good idea. PPPoE is just your authentication to your ISP, if you have an ISP which requires it. If the Speedstream is already doing it...you don't need you router to do it again.
The solution is as simple as A) Either leave your ISP supplied product to the PPPoE and routing for you..in which case..you don't need your Linksys router..just a switch or WAP. Or B)...flip the ISP supplied device over to pure bridge mode [as the original poster mentioned]...and have your router to the PPPoE and provide NAT ...this is the case I usually do.
More and more ISPs are proving "all in one" products which combine a built in modem, and a router..which does the PPPoE and NAT for you. This is a good thing, as years ago they just supplied a pure bridged dumb modem...which was bad, since your computer would obtain a public IP address, and usually qet infected rather quickly.
However it commonly leads to confusion when people try to add their own router...as double NAT'ing isn't the ideal situation. | |
tommythecool
@pacbell.net
| reply to graffixjones
Hey guys....here is a simple soloution, when u are trying to connect the Seimens 4100 with the linksys wrt54g. I called linksys, and here is what they told me to do, it is simple, efficient and shouldnt take you 15 minutes. Connect the cables correctly from your modem to the router, and power everything on. You will lose your connection for a few minutes. Now, instead of running the Linksys Install disc, which fails all the time, open internet explorer,and in the address bar type in 192.168.1.1. Now it will ask you for a user name and password, but the only problem is....you dont have one! I found a simple way to work around it. Leave the username field blank, and type in admin for your password. make sure your siemens is set for pppoe before you do this. Now, you can manually configure your linksys to work with your siemens 4100. CHange your linksys to pppoe settings, make a username and password, and last but not least, click on the wireless security tab, and configure it to your liking. Its that simple. | |
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