fonzbear2000
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|  why do people put the real player down?
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Kilroy
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dvd536
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| said by Kilroy  :Because it loads stuff we don't want and attempts to make everything run through Real Player. you forgot about the horrid quality of REAL video.
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by dvd536 :said by Kilroy :Because it loads stuff we don't want and attempts to make everything run through Real Player. you forgot about the horrid quality of REAL video. For the most part, yes. But I've seen a few recent things that had pretty good quality. I was very surprised.
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Schrade
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| It's bloated, used for too much advertizing, takes too much trouble to disable the crap turned on by default, etc..etc..
I can't believe anyone would ever use it.
I feel the same way about Windows Media Player.
If I want to just play some audio files I use XMPlay. | |
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? I hate Windows Media Player. I absolutely agree that it's too bloated. Every version that comes out has more and more features that i don't want.
One thing i absolutely hate about WMP is the stupid news and entertainment section that is stuffed into there. I don't care about the music, movies, and entertainment news when i load my media player - i just want to play videos!
BSPlayer is my video player of choice.
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dadkins
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| Because, years ago, it would try to do things that people didn't like.
I use it! I actually like RealPlayer! Yeah, I said it!
As for trying to take over... it ASKS what files you want associated with Real. Alot like QT does(and other player softwares).
MPC even asks what files to associate with MPC(Onoes!).
Mine behaves, can't say why other people have a hard time with it.
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by dadkins :Because, years ago, it would try to do things that people didn't like. I use it! I actually like RealPlayer! Yeah, I said it! As for trying to take over... it ASKS what files you want associated with Real. Alot like QT does(and other player softwares). MPC even asks what files to associate with MPC(Onoes!). Mine behaves, can't say why other people have a hard time with it. I don't mind realplayer either. I tend to prefer it over windows media player. (I don't know why, but i hate wmp!)
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by Bobb :Realevilplayer has done a lot of questionable things in the past! How it earned it's hated reputation. Going online without permission, installing other junk, doing things it shouldn't, just does a whole bunch of things behind the scenes that get annoying, etc. Was listed as Spyware for a while, don't know if it still is, I doubt it, nowadays you can pay to be unlisted!  Real Alternative 1.48 Final » www.free-codecs.com/download/Rea···tive.htm You obviously haven't used the Realplayer Enterprise edition, it is ad free and looks more streamlined.
»forms.real.com/rnforms/products/···dex.html
You are asked to enter a company name and phone number, but nobody is watching. I am guessing they want that because they know in a corperate enviroment people won't be watching ads.
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dadkins
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? Because it's the "IN" thing to do.
I play HD Quicktime videos in Real because it plays them better than Quicktime does!
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? Dadkins-- This question is about a friend of mine (really!) who uses Real. He's not technically inclined. Says it always played his CD's just fine until recently; now when he brings it up, the song is listed on the bar at top, but when he hits "play", it just shows him ads. I personally don't know anything about RealPlayer, other than the bad rumors that go around. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? Dadkins this what I use to rip audio and or convert audio.You can get it from here »www.filesland.com/companies/Poik···cts.html
or poikosoft.com
I also like using encspot
»www.guerillasoft.co.uk/encspot/
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fegul
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AB
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| Yeah, thanks dadkins. Like I say, I don't know anything about Real, & I only saw the problem for about a minute while visiting the other day. Just that he says it acts completely different than it used to. I'll re-post some other time when I have more info. But thanks anyway for the input.
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Schrade
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| said by fonzbear2000 :but ive seen people say they dont like it because of poor video or sound quality-not sure where they get that from Usually this is due to people who put up videos in RealMedia format compressing them far too much. This same thing happens with Windows Media files as well.
It just has to do with the knowledge of the people providing the content. With any compression format you're going to get novices putting up crappily encoded things. Too many people did that with Real files and that's how it got a bad reputation for quality. Not to mention the ....buffering.. That's still a common joke. | |
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by Schrade : Not to mention the ....buffering.. That's still a common joke. 
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Norwich, NY
| Real player almost always times out in streaming media for me.
Playing the same in Windows media player no problems, or any other besides quick time.
All payers have the latest update.
Should you ever make the mistake of subscribing to real super pass, and wish to cancel good luck.
Real started charging my account again, 2 months after I received there cancellation letter.
5 phone calls and letter to every address I could find got my money back, Anybody with out a lot of free time would have given up.
Real is still underhanded | |
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join:2002-12-25
Idaho Falls, ID | Try to edit Realplayer out of the registry after an uninstall. It took me the better part of a day to get all the entries out. | |
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fonzbear2000
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Saint Paul, MN
| hmmmmmmmmmmmmm my main issue still on this still isnt being addressed-and that is people saying they dont like real player because it has poorer video and sound quality as compared to other media players
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Schrade
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1 edit | said by fonzbear2000 :hmmmmmmmmmmmmm my main issue still on this still isnt being addressed-and that is people saying they dont like real player because it has poorer video and sound quality as compared to other media players Perhaps if you had asked about the RealMedia codecs, then people would address that. You asked about the player itself and people have voiced that it is utter crap.
said by dadkins :MPC even asks what files to associate with MPC(Onoes!). Mine behaves, can't say why other people have a hard time with it. Totally and utterly false. Media Player Classic doesn't have an install. It's just an .exe you run. When it starts up it doesn't bug you for associations or EULAs or anything. You have to go into its options area to associate it with files or choose 'Open With...' via Windows' menus and select it. | |
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Schrade
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by dadkins :Ok, I get the newest MPC when I get the newest K-Lite Codec Pack. Many people do as well... See pic. Sure looks like it's asking to me. That's the K-Lite Codec Pack. That is not Media Player Classic. They just happen to include it in their pack. The official downloads for Media Player Classic are here at SourceForge.net: »sourceforge.net/project/showfile···id=84358 | |
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dadkins
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1 edit | Re: why do people put the real player down? One more time:
"Ok, I get the newest MPC when I get the newest K-Lite Codec Pack. Many people do as well..."
Ya know, MPC works alot better when it has the codecs needed. This is why ALOT of people just get the K-Lite Pack.
Makes things alot easier.
That screenshot sure looks like it says Media Player Classic... maybe I'm wrong.
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Schrade
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by dadkins :One more time: "Ok, I get the newest MPC when I get the newest K-Lite Codec Pack. Many people do as well..." Ya know, MPC works alot better when it has the codecs needed. This is why ALOT of people just get the K-Lite Pack. Makes things alot easier. That screenshot sure looks like it says Media Player Classic... maybe I'm wrong. You don't seem to get it. That's not how you get Media Player Classic. The link I gave is where you get it. Just because someone includes it with the K-Lite Codec Pack doesn't mean that's the official distribution of it.
Codec Packs are not a smart thing to install. Pick and choose what codecs you need so as not to bloat your system up. | |
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fegul
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Primis
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| Because Realplayer is made by Real -- a company that is garbage, with garbage ideas, and that has shown a disturbing trend to make garbage products over its well-known history.
The "rumors" you've probably been hearing are merely a factual account of Real's past. If Real did today what they used to do, they would currently be considered a first-party spyware and adware vendor. They've employed many, many dirty tricks. | |
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fegul
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| I'm not a big fan of real player. I used to like it back in the 6th grade when pretty much everything streaming was Real, but not anymore
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howie
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| I used RealPlayer back in the '90s and (version 8 and earlier) and even bought the "plus" version. When they started putting banner ads in my paid-for version, I dumped it and didn't use anything Real for years. I have to admit, though, that I really like the Rhapsody player and it's one of my favorites now.
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gate1975mlm
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Philadelphia, PA | I also use Realplayer!! 
Gives me no problems. | |
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Richmond, VA
| Re: why do people put the real player down? Real player phones home without your knowledge and permission. I have blocked many real addresses thru host file. (»www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm) There is an alternate real player without the spyware baggage - google for alternate real player.
I have also read that it's impossible to uninstall realplayer completely from your system. Even after you uninstall, it leaves tonnes of stuff all over the place and only a reinstall of OS is the clear way out. | |
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dadkins
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? said by Bobb :{No Anti Steve Gibson/GRC stuff please! Great place!} LMAO! Ok, whatever you say! 
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sabretooth
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| i think a lot of the people who put it down do so because of bad experiences with it in the past. i used it a long time ago when it was the only player i could find for real media format files and yes, it was loaded with ads and a pain in the ass to uninstall. i have no doubt that they have improved things in their software since then, but i really have yet to hear any good reasons why it would be a better media player than others like bsplayer or winamp. it really comes down to whichever player has a layout you're comfortable with.
i do agree with people's dislike for windows media player though. i used that longer than anyone ever should and after countless manual codec updates and all that licensing crap for wma formats, i finally gave it up completely. now i'm using nero showtime for video files (i like it's screen capture features) with kazaa codec pack, winamp for all my music, and maybe vlc player for anything that either of those won't handle (like dual audio ogm files). | |
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
| Real Player is better than WMP IMO. They have a much better privacy policy than WMP. They wised up after getting caught a few years ago. Dadkins is correct. It ASKS what files you want associated with it. It doesn't associate any that you don't tell it to. And Rhapsody is sublime. But, Real/Rhapsody has the worst tech support around. So bad that it is even worse than Symantec's and that is saying a lot. I love Rhapsody but every time I break down and get it again...I have some problem and I have to go through incredibly complex hoops that provide no help before I can finally get to be able to contact support and get email support. Then that support is soooo abysmal and I get sooo frustrated that finally I just give up and uninstall Rhapsody and Real again.
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? I (and several other Rhapsody users) encountered that
horrible tech support of theirs when Rhapsody 3.0
first came out several months ago.
It seemed like they rushed out the new version too
quickly, and many users had problems.
The last time I installed it, though, I had very
little trouble with it. The radio tuner is one of
the best of any of the subscription based music
download services.
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? You mean 3.0 actually works now? I had it and what a nightmare and support was impossible. I couldn't uninstall it either...that was another mess. I wanted to go back to the earlier version and couldn't.
Well, maybe I will try it again. I had Rhapsody Radio from Listen.com which you can't get from Real (what is that game all about?) but that isn't all that good. To enjoy Rhapsody you need the full service so you can build your own radio stations. But I am not paying $10 a month for shitty tech support if I need it and my experience has been that with Real/Rhapsody you need it.
The quality of the sound is great. Probably be even better on this new Dell that has the SB X-Fi card.
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dadkins
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? Several ISPs are providing Radio Plus from Rapsody that allows you to create your own stations. 25 Free recordings plays per month too.
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| Re: why do people put the real player down? Yes, I know...Comcast has for over a year (also Speakeasy). I have asked Time Warner corporate three times why Road Runner doesn't offer this to us and the reply has been that no one is asking for it. 
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Rob A
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1 edit | I never liked it. It's bloated and bundled with crap, and did stuff that I didn't want it doing. I didn't even download it on purpose the first time I got it, it was bundled with aim or something. That was years ago though, never bothered to make another attempt at it. | |
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fegul
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WFO
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| said by dadkins :As for "ads"... anyone see [AD] anywhere on this screenshot? Ads don't seem to bother me much, if ya know what I mean. dadkins, please turn off your ad blocking software and then post a screen shot.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA | Re: why do people put the real player down? said by RDins :
realsched.exe
Nuff said.
Turn it off. I did.
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joekuz
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Calistoga, CA
1 edit | Re: why do people put the real player down? I personally use quicktime alternative and real alternative which play in MPC. Nothing against quicktime or real players I just am not big on having multiples of media players. If one can do it all fine by me. | |
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nael
join:2001-12-02
philippines
1 edit | I still prefer WMP6.4. It is faster for me than MPC because he added stuff I don't have any use for, like built-in codecs and subtitles.
Realplayer isn't bad, and I'd take it any day over Quicktime!
Xvid 960x video works without glitching, but the movie trailers on Apple's website crawl, with dropped frames. It seems to be because it doesn't use overlays, and I can't make it use them either. DirectDraw Acceleration doesn't do it, and disabling it doesn't either. | |
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cvrefugee
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Corona, CA | WMP9 and WMP10 ask you what file types you would like to associate with it, in fact, it asks you the first time you run the program. | |
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