Bobb
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Kent, WA
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Re: why do people put the real player down?
said by Mele20  :The way I look at it Real has tried to reform and I give them credit for that effort. My hatred is for WMP and Microsoft who arrogantly doesn't even give you the OPTION to stop WMP from calling home after 6.4. Plus, you can easily remove Real Player from your computer. Just try and remove WMP 10 from XP which results in 9 being default and it calls home too. You can get it where version 9 files are on the computer but it isn't installed and thus 6.4 is invoked but you can't remove the version 9 files (well you can but they come back). THAT is what deserves hatred not Real Player. People that have been around remember what Real did & Does! Real is just as evil and crappy as always!
Windows media player has always been a great player.
If you learn how it works, you'd see you can disable anything you want! Remove whatever.
Just need to take the time to read.
WMP has always been the best and never did the things Realnetworks did to get them the rep that many have forgotten.
They haven't fired the people responsible or stopped there
policy, just gotten better at it.
There just happy they are still in business!
Junk stock!
Anyway, WMP 11 works great! And I have Real Alternative.
So I don't need the Communist crap! I don't forgive & forget as quick as some I guess.
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OverBurn
join:2004-02-21
Greenwood, IN
| reply to fonzbear2000
I HATE real player and anything associated with it. I wish it was wiped off the face of the earth.
If I just have to play a real file I use Media Player Classic with real & quicktime alternative. The only other player I ever use is VLC. I only install the codecs I need, I never install codec packs. |
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Cudni
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join:2003-12-20
Someshire
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i have wmp 10 and 9 and was always able to disable its so called calling home (not using firewall) both by disabling from with app itself and using a well documented registry edit.
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major marco
Res Firma Mitescere Nescit
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Stepford, CA
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said by Mele20 : You can get it where version 9 files are on the computer but it isn't installed and thus 6.4 is invoked but you can't remove the version 9 files (well you can but they come back). THAT is what deserves hatred not Real Player. Eh, maybe so but I still hate Real Player along with WMP for all the reasons you just cited. |
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
| reply to major marco
The way I look at it Real has tried to reform and I give them credit for that effort. My hatred is for WMP and Microsoft who arrogantly doesn't even give you the OPTION to stop WMP from calling home after 6.4. Plus, you can easily remove Real Player from your computer. Just try and remove WMP 10 from XP which results in 9 being default and it calls home too. You can get it where version 9 files are on the computer but it isn't installed and thus 6.4 is invoked but you can't remove the version 9 files (well you can but they come back). THAT is what deserves hatred not Real Player.
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major marco
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said by Mele20 :Uh...Real Player hasn't phoned home in a couple of years unless you decide it should. You must be thinking of old versions before Real got with it and got a good privacy policy. No, actually, I'm not mistaken. My hate for Real Player is quite tangible. And I really don't care about their so called privacy policy. They had their chance and they f*cked it up with their surreptitious bullshit. They aren't going to change my mind about it now with some piddly little alleged privacy policy.
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Mele20
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| reply to major marco
Uh...Real Player hasn't phoned home in a couple of years unless you decide it should. You must be thinking of old versions before Real got with it and got a good privacy policy.
It's WMP player that gives you NO choice and phones home whether you want it to or not. It is also WMP that forces DRM for most everything. I have WMP player above 6.4 non-functional on my computer.
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major marco
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said by fonzbear2000 :quite a few times, ive seen people say that the real player sucks-i listened to an mp3 through both real and winamp and they sounded exactly the same-i watched a video on both and they looked and sounded exactly the same-so, why are people against real player? Where to start. That's like asking why AOHell sucks and isn't as popular as say, Firefox. My personal hate for RealPlayer is as follows:
1) Phones home.
2) Installs a buncha shit I don't want/need on my HD.
3) Uses DRM whether you enable it or not.
Has nothing to do with quality or lack thereof. Personally, I just refuse to use any software whose developers assume their customers are dumb and won't mind bloatware that sucks up their system's resources and scans the HD transmitting anything back to the mothership that it finds. I feel the same way about Windows Media Player.
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Grail Knight
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join:2003-05-31 | reply to JTM1051
quote:
After reading many of your posts I'll yield to your experience on the subject gripes.
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JTM1051
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join:2000-07-08
Moorpark, CA
| reply to Mele20
said by Mele20 :So?? PCWorld doesn't like the 1999 version of Real Player? What does that have to do with the current version??? Just pointing out, as others in have, that some do not like/trust RealPlayer due to its past.
With all the boners RealPlayer has pulled over the years lot of people, including myself, I still don't trust them.
That PC World list is just a gripe list and each person's gripe list is going to be different. After reading many of your posts I'll yield to your experience on the subject gripes. |
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Mele20
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Hilo, HI
| reply to JTM1051
So?? PCWorld doesn't like the 1999 version of Real Player? What does that have to do with the current version???
That entire list is suspect. Nothing wrong with AOL if you had it years ago when only dialup was available or have it currently if you live in an area (like this island) where broadband is not very available. It gave me a far superior dial up connection than did Verizon, Earthlink and other ISPs I tried and I didn't need to use AOL browser at all. I currently have AOL free from Road Runner.
That PC World list is just a gripe list and each person's gripe list is going to be different. I consider the current Real Player (not the 1999 version) to be excellent. It is the versions of Microsoft's WMP since 6.4 that badly suck. The only problem with Real Player and Rhapsody (which has fantastic sound and library) is that the tech support is as bad or worse than Symantec's.
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joako
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/dev/null | reply to fonzbear2000
I stopped using it when the required you to create an account, just to use the software.
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JTM1051
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join:2000-07-08
Moorpark, CA
| reply to fonzbear2000
PC World's (2006) 25 Worst Tech Products of All Time
1. America Online (1989-2006)
2. RealNetworks RealPlayer (1999)
3. Syncronys SoftRAM (1995)
4. Microsoft Windows Millennium (2000)
5. Sony BMG Music CDs (2005)
6. Disney The Lion King CD-ROM (1994)
7. Microsoft Bob (1995)
8. Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 (2001)
9. Pressplay and Musicnet (2002)
10. dBASE IV (1988)
11. Priceline Groceries and Gas (2000)
12. PointCast (1996)
13. IBM PCjr. (1984)
14. Gateway 2000 10th Anniversary PC (1995)
15. Iomega Zip Drive (1998)
16. Comet Cursor (1997)
17. Apple Macintosh Portable (1989)
18. IBM Deskstar 75GXP (2000)
19. OQO Model 1 (2004)
20. CueCat (2000)
21. Eyetop Wearable DVD Player (2004)
22. Apple Pippin @World (1996)
23. Free PCs (1999)
24. DigiScents iSmell (2001)
25. Sharp RD3D Notebook (2004) |
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4 edits | reply to Schrade
WMP 8 is around 4MB of space and uses 3.87MB of ram on my system
power dvd 7.0 uses 90MB
(watching dvd)
quicktime uses 500+ MB of ram 75%-89% of an dual core @ 2.6GHz/2.8GHz (AMD cpu) when watching an 100MB HD movie (1080P)
real player um i have not used it cause the new GUI sucks and it is not free and has adware/spyware |
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dadkins
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
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| reply to howie
Re: why do people put the real player down?
said by howie :When does Rhapsody "send your CPU usage to around 50%"? When I'm using it, my CPU is about 2-4% used. I'd like to know this as well... ~2% here.
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howie
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join:2003-04-08
Little Falls, NJ | reply to ssj4android
When does Rhapsody "send your CPU usage to around 50%"?
When I'm using it, my CPU is about 2-4% used. |
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ssj4android
Redefining Reality
join:2002-04-14
Wyoming, MI | reply to fonzbear2000
Real Media files were horrible quality when they first started to come out. Maybe people remember that?
Rhapsody is horrible though. It sends my CPU usage to around 50%. |
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gate1975mlm
Premium
join:2001-09-30
Philadelphia, PA | reply to Rick
I also like Real Player! |
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Rick
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Waterbury, CT
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Real Player ticked me off long ago with all the crap it put on my computer and I never looked at or wanted the program since.
I'm pretty happy with Media player and use that for just about everything except watching DVD's for which I use cyberlink/power DVD.
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