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Re: When I Dumped Comcast!
said by fiberguy  :F*CK off Kamm! So I guess the united way, red cross, any church that asks it's members of congregation to donate, well, those groups shouldn't get credit either, right? Are you comparing Comcast to the Red Cross? |
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fiberguy
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| Read the post again, because I know what you are trying to do here and it won't work.
Red Cross asks their employees to give.
The United way asks their employees give.
Churches ask their congreagation to give.
Employers IN GENERAL and not just Comcast, asks their employees to give.
What's in common here? They all ask their own employees and members to give and the organization claims credit for it.
The redcross asks the general people to give. It's complete fund raising. A company that gives up a service fee in lue of a charitable donation is fund raising. Do you not understand why a corporation gives a donation to another group that is raising money? Let's say there is a local group putting on an event and gets $10,000 from target. Do you think that $10K goes right to the event's recipients? Not all directly. That donation from target would go to the general fund for that event and it can be used to pay for expenses to put on the event so that it can also raise money. If they don't use it all, which many try not to use as much corporate donations as possible, then it is a direct benefit when possible as well.
If you can't read and pay attention to my entire post, don't bother with your little snippet trying to make me look like the bad guy here.
If ANYONE here has a problem with a corporation giving direct chartable aid, goods, or money to any charitable organization, and considers it a scam, a way of getting out of taxes, conspiracy, or what ever, you should be ashamed of yourself.
I have given up much personal time and cash out of pocket since I was 18 years of age to charity every year. It sickens me to listen to you guys sit back and bash any entity that provides charitable donations to those in needs.
I'd suggest you put up or shut up about what you don't know about. |
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backness
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| Ok... but what about the fact that the red cross is a charitable organization... and comcast is a cable company?
do some reading...
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Cross
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast
If you still think you can compare a FOR PROFIT CABLE COMPANY with the RED CROSS.. then i have nothing further to say |
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fiberguy
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| You have nothing further to say.
I don't need your wiki links and I don't need your lesson. YOU, however, need to learn to read and understand and stop being so quick to look for something wrong in my post. Why the heck are you so damn focused on what the organization is? My post focuses on the charitbale act of giving.
I don't like talking to those people with closed minds. So yea.. you have nothing further to say. You need a hobby. |
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join:2005-07-08
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| well let me get it straight...
your position is that any organization that gives any kind of charity is equal?
why use such a silly comparison? your logic is flawed...
you state that charity comes from the people... not the organization which is true. However, you are fundamentally stating that human charity is the result of humans giving.
I would argue that it is not the organization that incites peoples need to give, rather it is an element of the human spirit.
If the tax advantages for profit companies disappeared, do you honestly believe they would still do it? I know for a fact the red cross will still be giving to people whether or not the American government decides to give a tax break.
My argument is that to compare an organization who's sole function is charity to a cable company is silly. |
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fiberguy
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2 edits | Your argument was to pick out one point and focus on it inestead of the whole message. Sorry, I don't play that way.. That's how politicians and talking point machiens like to work.. not me.
Do I agree if the tax break was gone that companies would still do it? ABSOLUTELY! Many would! It's good P.R. as well... and good P.R. is more than just advertising.. it shows to those that spend money with that company that they do care about the communities they service. I think you are putting WAY TOO MUCH conspiracy behind the spirit of giving. And, in the end, IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE WAS A TAX DEDUCTION OUT OF IT! THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO WORK THIS WAY! THEY WANT PEOPLE TO GIVE IN THEIR OWN WAY SO THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT ALL! Geez! Really.. I am beginning to think that if you were in need and you got a hand out offered to help you, you'd do your back ground to see how the money got to you.
Charity is charity.. when you get over this whole tax break issue that you have, you might see more clearly. Your government and system is not the same as ours most likely... either that, or you just don't get it and place high demands on the money you get.
Tell you this.. let's take St. Judes hopistal as a complete example.. and if you have any points about St. Jude, PICK ANOTHER.. IT DOENS"T MATTER AND I WON'T DISCUSS ST. JUDE ISSUES... the issue is, do you REALLY THINK that St. Jude would care why the donating company made that 100K donation? Think they REALLY care? I think they would be greatfull to get thet 100K to help several kids in need.. or to be able to keep their doors open longer to serve more. Even Toys For Tots and the food banks are the same way. I think the marines are happy to know that children have a gift to open on Christmas to know they can grow up as a child WITH a childhood (no matter how plastic the holiday has become). And the food banks.. think they really care about the intent of the corporation that gave them food to feed needy families?
I am REALLY guessing that you have never done anything charitable as is WORKED in a charity organization. You don't CARE where the donations come from or if that money was tax deductable as long as it wasn't corrupted money. THEY KNOW about tax breaks because they issue the receipts and forms so the doner CAN get the tax break! Geez!
Your whole point is that if someone gave and got a tax break that it's not really charity. Got a news flash for you.. (being you are joining in a topic based on U.S. ways) you do know that charitable contributions (in how we are talking here to a 501(c)3 org) are tax deductable. Right? So I guess any individule giving and taking that tax break fits in your model of being ingenious.. right? 
Have a nice day. |
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