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BloodRoses
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Re: 100 MB broadband for all

and I'm not willing to pay extra on my bill so some arse that decides to live in some craphole in the middle of nowhere can get broadband, either. A wise New Yorker once said "Dial-up is fast enough for their fast paced lifestyle". If you don't like it, move.
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ss4vegito7

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said by BloodRoses See Profile :

and I'm not willing to pay extra on my bill so some arse that decides to live in some craphole in the middle of nowhere can get broadband, either. A wise New Yorker once said "Dial-up is fast enough for their fast paced lifestyle". If you don't like it, move.
What if you can't afford to move but would like decent internet? And don't say if you can't afford to move that you can't afford broadband because that isn't true.
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older dog
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We all subsidize somebody with something.
Water comes to mind. We in the country subsidize your cheap water.
How by land restrictions around water sheds. Hurts resale of land, tax base, and prevents the area from ever growing to where the area would be viable for broadband deployment on its own.
After all you could just move to a area where water is easier to provide.
The list is endless on both sides.

PDXPLT

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Banks, OR

said by older dog See Profile :

We all subsidize somebody with something.
Water comes to mind. We in the country subsidize your cheap water.
How by land restrictions around water sheds. Hurts resale of land, tax base, and prevents the area from ever growing to where the area would be viable for broadband deployment on its own.
After all you could just move to a area where water is easier to provide.
The list is endless on both sides.
Not to mention all the "scenic restrictions" that serve no purpose, other than to give some suburban dweeb a pretty view when they go on their Sunday drive in the country. You don't hear rural folks demanding that strip malls all be dismantled, just so that they don't have to look at them at those times when they venture into the 'burbs. Why should rural people be forced to restrict what they do with their own property, just to satisfy the aesthetic sensibilities of some city slicker?


ImaIdiotToo

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reply to BloodRoses
and I'm not willing to pay extra on my bill so some arse that decides to live in some craphole in the middle of nowhere can get broadband, either
Agreed! Phuck the farmers, the stupid hayseeds don't need broadband. They should just move their farms to the city.


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Re: 100 MB broadband for all

said by ss4vegito7 See Profile :

What if you can't afford to move but would like decent internet? And don't say if you can't afford to move that you can't afford broadband because that isn't true.
That's up to them to figure out. It's not my problem. Part of my monthly bill shouldn't be going to help them.
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CaptainRR
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reply to PDXPLT
I hear. Sounds like living in the Adirondacks! Cell service is scarce because they don't allow towers. One thing I can say is most of the private telco's up there do provide DSL and are way ahead of any major telco. Were I used to live I used to have a small telco that covered only two townships. I have family up there and they cover every corner of there service area with DSL. What I am getting at is if you are on a baby bell telco more chance's are you will get DSL before most people will with major telco's in rural areas. I know that first hand. I am with the new AT&T out in the middle of no wear and just barley have dialup!

bamabrad

join:2006-01-27
Port Orange, FL
reply to ImaIdiotToo
If it were me,(but it's not), I wouldn't put down the hard working people that feed me- BB is important-but I can't eat it.


CConverse

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said by BloodRoses See Profile :

...some arse that decides to live in some craphole in the middle of nowhere...

Y'know, those "arses" provide you with the food you eat three times a day, it's not like food can be grown in the concrete jungle...
My husband is involved in an agricultural business program at his local college. He is studying ways that computer technology can be used to enhance farming methods. Broadband would certainly help, imagine downloading several gigs of satellite data about your crops on a dial-up connection!
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CConverse

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said by PDXPLT See Profile :

Not to mention all the "scenic restrictions" that serve no purpose, other than to give some suburban dweeb a pretty view when they go on their Sunday drive in the country.
No purpose? Ask the birds or butterflies that use the areas as migration "rest stops". As the swamplands that act as natural filters for earth's water supply. Ask the trees and plants that provide us with the oxygen we breathe. There's plenty of reason to keep these areas, we just have to look for them.

Edit: See (and look up) my quote for more details.
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BloodRoses
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A farmer, and an "arse" (read: hick) that decides to live in the middle of nowhere (read: double wide with two broken down pickups), are two very different things. Your husband is researching technology to help business owners, who so happen to be in the business of farming. Most businsesses, city or not, generally don't use DSL or Cable, if they do it's a leased business line from the Telco and or Cable company. I don't own a company, and I don't make anywhere near the kind of money that a modern farm can. I also can't write my expenses off at tax time. What you're talking about is a VERY different situation than what is being discussed here.
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Tzale
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said by CConverse See Profile :

said by BloodRoses See Profile :

...some arse that decides to live in some craphole in the middle of nowhere...

Y'know, those "arses" provide you with the food you eat three times a day, it's not like food can be grown in the concrete jungle...
My husband is involved in an agricultural business program at his local college. He is studying ways that computer technology can be used to enhance farming methods. Broadband would certainly help, imagine downloading several gigs of satellite data about your crops on a dial-up connection!
When was the last time you heard of a farmer needing broadband for FARMING? Come on! I don't know that many people who use their connection in the city/burbs for work the majority of the time, let alone RURAL AREAS? Are you nuts? People in rural areas want broadband for FUN! NOT WORK!
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older dog
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Just a example of how wrong you are.

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AT this point in time they are small, but who knows, if they could get more than 19k how much they could expand. Try uploading items at that speed and see how long it takes.
Do not say ISDN is available it is not. satellite does not work because of the forest, no wireless.
They were my neighbors before I moved.

Many farmers have used the net to buy and sell embryos for many years. Countries hit by mad cow disease have been a hot market.
Some have become millionaires from this. Equipment is another that is easily traded on the net.

The net has had as big a effect on commerce for rural areas as paved roads.
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