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said by rit56 :the paragraph you include on the bottom of your post.... aren't you ashamed to include that? have you no self respect? are you proud to alert every member of DSL reports of you views being an out of touch, ignorant, racist, homofobe? have a little respect for the other members here and omit your vile hate from your posts. Why the hell should he omit it? 
There are plenty of Bush-bashers, Conservative-bashers, Republican-bashers, and Capitalist-bashers here at BBR with sigs I find just as offensive. -- "Americans have this funny habit of confusing freedom, which they cherish, with choice, which can give them headaches." Professor Barry Schwartz |
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| said by kamm :said by rit56 :"Republicans have this funny habit of confusing freedom with what their view of freedom in America is... what's good for affluent white America and Corporations is all that matters and dissent is Un American" Very true. Just like it's true that the NYC area is home to the largest concentration of hard Leftists in the entire United States. Since you're so near Canada, it's too bad we can't do a straight swap. All of NY State, (including Schumer and BOTH Clintons) for those Western Province that have a Conservative base and lots of oil.  -- "Americans have this funny habit of confusing freedom, which they cherish, with choice, which can give them headaches." Professor Barry Schwartz |
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| reply to rit56 said by rit56 :"Republicans have this funny habit of confusing freedom with what their view of freedom in America is... what's good for affluent white America and Corporations is all that matters and dissent is Un American" So where do you work? Do you work for a corporation? -- Do you own/manage a barn with lesson horses? Go here! »www.otsysinc.com/EquiSense.htm |
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| said by TechieZero :So where do you work? Do you work for a corporation? People like him make me wish I worked for an evil corporation. I think my next job change might be for Big Oil or Big Tobacco  -- Tancredo 2008! |
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1 edit | reply to TechieZero said by TechieZero :So where do you work? Do you work for a corporation? please please please please please... Can I call him an astroturfer? |
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| reply to qdemn7 said by qdemn7 :Just like it's true that the NYC area is home to the largest concentration of hard Leftists in the entire United States. Since you're so near Canada, it's too bad we can't do a straight swap. All of NY State, (including Schumer and BOTH Clintons) for those Western Province that have a Conservative base and lots of oil. Which has always perplexed me as NY, NY has to be one of the most materialistic centres of the WORLD. But hey, with Hillary as their spokesperson wearing her Chairman Mao clothing line; preaching about how so many are troubled and poor; how terrible that all is while she rakes in the millions and millions of dollars of book deals etc. --- I guess to be a Lib is to practice a mantra of duplicity. |
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| reply to TechieZero said by TechieZero :So where do you work? Do you work for a corporation? I'm sure plenty of us work for corporations, me included. But you seem to suggest that corporations are a benign influence in the world. Corporations are good at producing cash flows. They just can't see farther than that - they'll be the first to admit that that's as far as they want their responsibilities/liabilities go. They can certainly be irresponsible when it comes to other facets of life. |
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| said by disc :said by TechieZero :So where do you work? Do you work for a corporation? I'm sure plenty of us work for corporations, me included. But you seem to suggest that corporations are a benign influence in the world. Corporations are good at producing cash flows. They just can't see farther than that - they'll be the first to admit that that's as far as they want their responsibilities/liabilities go. They can certainly be irresponsible when it comes to other facets of life. Most of the time corporations are benign. You, me, and the next guy can get together and form one, become employed by one and hire others to be a part of it. We are the Corporations and like everything else, it has it's equivalent share of criminals. That in itself does not make them bad.
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| I think where we as a society get ourselves into trouble is in following the mantra of laissez faire. That policy makes sense within the province of companies competing with each other and engaging with the marketplace.
In the case of the Internet, if we think of it as a marketplace, I think the question is whether we want the last-mile operators controlling access to that marketplace. This isn't so much the last-mile operators engaging with the marketplace as it is them becoming a mediator to the market place. This falls outside the province of where laissez faire operates effectively. In which case, let's be responsible and regulate it appropriately.
And in the case of the Internet, there's a wide swath of people for which the Internet as marketplace is a secondary aspect. They use the Internet for other needs. In which case again, this falls outside the province of where laissez faire operates effectively. Again, let's be responsible in what we allow the last-mile operators do here. |
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| reply to pnh102 said by pnh102 :said by TechieZero :So where do you work? Do you work for a corporation? People like him make me wish I worked for an evil corporation. I think my next job change might be for Big Oil or Big Tobacco "Evil Corporation" my ass. 
People in this country don't really know what an EVIL CORPORATION really is. If they were all the true fascists that these Leftists claim, then a great many of these Leftists would be having "tragic accidents" every damn day. In fact with the rise of the 'net, the death rate among the Leftists would exceed that of those with Lung Cancer. -- "Americans have this funny habit of confusing freedom, which they cherish, with choice, which can give them headaches." Professor Barry Schwartz |
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| reply to TechieZero said by TechieZero :Which has always perplexed me as NY, NY has to be one of the most materialistic centres of the WORLD. But hey, with Hillary as their spokesperson wearing her Chairman Mao clothing line; preaching about how so many are troubled and poor; how terrible that all is while she rakes in the millions and millions of dollars of book deals etc. --- I guess to be a Lib is to practice a mantra of duplicity. Easily explained. Having lots of money is only evil when someone else does. When the Left has lots of money it's perfectly OK because "they care, they really do." -- "Americans have this funny habit of confusing freedom, which they cherish, with choice, which can give them headaches." Professor Barry Schwartz |
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Wow! You FINALLY understand. I've been telling you that since the beginning. Are you just understanding it now? It's the highly educated people (who are almost universally liberal) that understand that concept, and I welcome you to our fold. "Join me, and together we can overthrow the fascist Bush and his jackbooted thugs, for together we can rule the galaxy." "qdemn7, I am your father..." -- The central injustice of capitalism is the exploitation and alienation of labor. |
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| reply to G_Poobah said by G_Poobah :"When the Left has lots of money it's perfectly OK because "they care, they really do."" Wow! You FINALLY understand. I've been telling you that since the beginning. Are you just understanding it now? It's the highly educated people (who are almost universally liberal) that understand that concept, and I welcome you to our fold. "Join me, and together we can overthrow the fascist Bush and his jackbooted thugs, for together we can rule the galaxy." "qdemn7, I am your father..." I guess, I should have put sarcasm tags in my post. 
And if you're my father, remember this "Daddy": The Apprentice is always looking to kill the Master. It would be a two for one. "Take out" the trash and make the world a better place. -- "Americans have this funny habit of confusing freedom, which they cherish, with choice, which can give them headaches." Professor Barry Schwartz |
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you sir are un American. you're not a patriot. you're a disgrace to everything the USA stands for. I forwarded your post to several friends I have from Texas, 2 live here and one in Dallas and all of them as fellow Texans are ashamed. all 3 are right wing Republicans and think what you wrote is not only a disgrace but they also said the majority of Texans would never turn their back on any part of the United States. what's your excuse? because of a difference of opinion you would turn your back on a part of your own country? trade it off to another country? stand and watch it burn like you more than likely did while the towers burned? I bet you were glad it happened to New York right? I bet even now you think New York deserved it. you make every American look bad. did you know West Point is in New York? do you know the top 2 states in the USA who send the most kids there to become officers? New York and Texas. that's right New York has more graduates than any other state in the Union other than maybe Texas.. New York. A blue state full of Patriots. I've been to West Point many times, took the tour, saw a concert there. They never asked me what my politics were nor did I have to prove I was a citizen. I was welcomed as a tax paying Patriotic Citizen and I was treated respectfully. all of upstate is republican and you are to ignorant to understand that diversity is what made the United States in the first place. crawl back into your dung hole and continue to blame everyone else for the failures we have now as a nation on everyone other than the President. he is in charge. he is responsible. |
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said by rit56 :you sir are un American. you're not a patriot. you're a disgrace to everything the USA stands for. I forwarded your post to several friends I have from Texas, 2 live here and one in Dallas and all of them as fellow Texans are ashamed. all 3 are right wing Republicans and think what you wrote is not only a disgrace but they also said the majority of Texans would never turn their back on any part of the United States. what's your excuse? because of a difference of opinion you would turn your back on a part of your own country? trade it off to another country? stand and watch it burn like you more than likely did while the towers burned? I bet you were glad it happened to New York right? I bet even now you think New York deserved it. you make every American look bad. did you know West Point is in New York? do you know the top 2 states in the USA who send the most kids there to become officers? New York and Texas. that's right New York has more graduates than any other state in the Union other than maybe Texas.. New York. A blue state full of Patriots. I've been to West Point many times, took the tour, saw a concert there. They never asked me what my politics were nor did I have to prove I was a citizen. I was welcomed as a tax paying Patriotic Citizen and I was treated respectfully. all of upstate is republican and you are to ignorant to understand that diversity is what made the United States in the first place. crawl back into your dung hole and continue to blame everyone else for the failures we have now as a nation on everyone other than the President. he is in charge. he is responsible. First of all Im not your friend. Youre just an anonymous name on the internet. And I dont give a good goddamn what your OR your friends think of me.
And NO, I was not glad what happened on 9/11. Not to the NYC. Not to DC. Not to the people murdered on the airliners. There can be no defense what was done that day to this country.
And you can talk all you want about patriotism, but its not been Texas politicians trying to repeal the 2nd Amendment ever since they have been in office like Schumer has. The Constitution is not a buffet, where you can pick and choose what parts are important and which parts arent. I regard the 2nd Amendment as of equal importance to the 1st. Too bad the people in NYC dont feel the same way, but I refuse to let YOU try to take my rights away.
And guess what, Bush is in charge, and he and his appointees have screwed up. Thats why his approval ratings are so low. And as Truman said, The buck stops here. Ill be the first to admit Bush has done a poor job in the last 18 months. Heres my proof of that in this thread: »Bush 60% Disapproval
said by qdemn7 :Alright here goes, I going to rip some asses with this one. No the Republican Party isn't "doomed". Only this iteration of the Republican Party. That is the iteration catering to Religious Conservatives trying to shove a Biblical based morality down people's throats. The Republican Party as it currently exists has lost it's way: It has sacrificed fiscal responsibility for a faith "based" agenda, trying to right all social ills through Big Government, just like we always accused the Left of trying to do. It has allowed a group of politicians who have forgotten the Oath they swore to Protect and Defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Politicians who threaten Jurists who don't rule their way. It has sacrificed Science, Reason and Technology, three things that have made America a World Leader, for some mystical mumbo-jumbo that equates a fertilized egg as equivalent to a living breathing human being. Who try to make people believe the Earth was created in six 24 hour days. It has sacrificed the concept of America First, to a Global Economy that equates American Workers to Workers in any Third World Cesspit. It has created a class of Capitalists that are the most amoral and disloyal group of businessmen since those who wondered whether it was possible "to do business with Hitler." We need a time in the "wilderness". We need time to reflect on our mistakes and errors. We need to tell those people who think otherwise that this is a Republic whose Supreme Law is a Constitution and a set of laws made by men. Not the Bible. Not the Torah. Not the Koran. Not the Ten Commandments. To tell those who would institute a Theocracy that they are traitors to the idea and the ideals of America, no matter what faith they hold. What we need is a plain spoken man with the guts of Harry Truman, and the ideology of Barry Goldwater. And right now, I don't see one. One last thing, you need to pick up a little book called "Elements of Style". Your looks like it was done by a Primary School student. Ever heards of using capitalization? -- "Americans have this funny habit of confusing freedom, which they cherish, with choice, which can give them headaches." Professor Barry Schwartz |
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