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NDPTAL85

join:2002-01-23
Boston, MA

reply to kamm
Broadband never was a utility.

A utility is something you need to remain alive. Water, heat, gas, electricity all run appliances that keep us warm, keep our food from spoiling, allow us to cook our food, and allow us to have indoor plumbing to remove human wastes from our home and reduce the incidence of disease.

Now its up to you to explain just exactly someone would die from lack of internet access?


Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL


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reply to kamm
Re: We are getting there

Maybe I misunderstood your post?

EDIT: "It's sheer stupidity and narrow mindedness to deny the fact that internet IS a utility."

I take that as your saying im narrow minded and denying the fact that internet IS a utility, so your stating that in fact the internet itself is a utility.

If that's not what you mean't please elaborate.


kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US

reply to Michieru2
said by Michieru2 See Profile :

Then please explain in detail on how is Broadband in fact a utility.
? Explain how it isn't...


Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL
reply to kamm
Then please explain in detail on how is Broadband in fact a utility.


kamm

join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US

reply to Michieru2
said by Michieru2 See Profile :

"Broadband, if considered a utility"

It's considered a utility for a business, not for a customer.

"Price is no longer a reason, for most people, not to get a broadband internet connection. "Availability" and "need" are the prime factors."

No, just stop there broadband's average price is around 30-50 dollars.

Dialup average is around 10-19 dollars.

To someone who lives off a low income everything they have is looked upon as highly valuable, especially when it comes to money so while it does not look like much a difference to someone who has a normal or high income, for someone with low income it really does.

Price is still one of the main factors, availability is another. Need is not a prime factor because when I had dialup I learned to be patient, please don't confuse need from want.

Broadband is only needed to those who use applications that require such speeds. It's a luxury to the user like a car instead of driving a Meetro he/she wants a Dodge Viper.
It's sheer stupidity and narrow mindedness to deny the fact that internet IS a utility.
It serves nothing but helps the greedy cable cos to maintain the current status quo, their high prices yet ridiculously slow upload speeds, keeping users miserably clueless, resulting falling competitiveness.

This is exactly the kind of mindset that resulted our shitty broadband speeds, high prices, laughable cable upload speeds etc etc, all together our pathetic ~16th place in the world when it comes to broadband.


Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

reply to manfmmd
"Broadband, if considered a utility"

It's considered a utility for a business, not for a customer.

"Price is no longer a reason, for most people, not to get a broadband internet connection. "Availability" and "need" are the prime factors."

No, just stop there broadband's average price is around 30-50 dollars.

Dialup average is around 10-19 dollars.

To someone who lives off a low income everything they have is looked upon as highly valuable, especially when it comes to money so while it does not look like much a difference to someone who has a normal or high income, for someone with low income it really does.

Price is still one of the main factors, availability is another. Need is not a prime factor because when I had dialup I learned to be patient, please don't confuse need from want.

Broadband is only needed to those who use applications that require such speeds. It's a luxury to the user like a car instead of driving a Meetro he/she wants a Dodge Viper.
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