csudsu11
join:2004-05-28
Hackensack, NJ
| reply to ropeguru
Re: [VoicePulse Connect] New looks and features...
They didn't say they would shut you off if you didn't fax it, just "restrict usage". What that means remains to be seen... It could just be "you can't make $5000 in international phone calls".
I see no problem supplying this information for business use. I've had to fill out the same info to buy stuff from various online sites (servers, subscriptions, etc).
- My credit card came in the mail, anyone could have opened it.
- I'm faxing it to a company that already has my credit card info.
- This is no different from any financial firm that asks for my banking info for direct deposit. Or utilities that allow automatic payments by credit card.
- Other IAX providers ask for the same thing (»www.junctionnetworks.com/pdf/Aut···date.pdf)
- VoicePulse has a spotless reputation and it looks like they're cracking down on the same fraud that put their competitors out of business.
After all, if there's someone offering the same as they do for less, or with different requirements, you can always sign up with someone else and pay by Paypal because that's not suspicious at all.  |
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| said by csudsu11  :They didn't say they would shut you off if you didn't fax it, just "restrict usage". What that means remains to be seen... It could just be "you can't make $5000 in international phone calls". I see no problem supplying this information for business use. I've had to fill out the same info to buy stuff from various online sites (servers, subscriptions, etc). - My credit card came in the mail, anyone could have opened it. No, because in most cases, credit card issuers these days make you activate the card before you are allowed to use it. In most cases it MUST be done from the phone number attached to the account. That is called security.
- I'm faxing it to a company that already has my credit card info. So... Just because they already have it in electronic form (secure) doesn't mean they should have it on plain paper for any to get (insecure).
- This is no different from any financial firm that asks for my banking info for direct deposit. Or utilities that allow automatic payments by credit card. A financial firm will NEVER ask for all you CC infor for direct deposit. A firm asks for a blank CHECK which is VOIDED (hence cannot be used by anyone) for direct deposit. All utilities I have dealt with use some form of secure electronic entry to gain you CC number for billing and it is stored that way. None I have seen or used require all the information from your CC including the CCV number which is specific for that card.
And for one, I would not do business with them that way. Second, you will see they do NOT as for the CCV number which is a security code designated for that physical card to verify you have it with you. Most online transactions are requiring that number now. If you fax in your CC # and info and do not supply the CCV and someone gets your CC info, they will be limited on what online transactions they can do. If they have the CCV number they can do what they wish with your credit card online.
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- VoicePulse has a spotless reputation and it looks like they're cracking down on the same fraud that put their competitors out of business.Then they need to find another way of doing it WITHOUT comprimising the security of their customer's credit cards. If they provide me with a way for me to securely send them my CC info, ie. encrypted online form, then I will do so. But to as me to provide them this sensitive info on plain paper via a VERY insecure faxing method where anyone can grab the fax and have fun with my credit card, then they can restrict my account all they want as long as they do not lose my number.
After all, if there's someone offering the same as they do for less, or with different requirements, you can always sign up with someone else and pay by Paypal because that's not suspicious at all.
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