hypercooljak
join:2003-09-12
Appleton, WI
clubs: | reply to rachelsfx
Re: AT&T is deluding itself
It doesn't have to be 3000ft from the CO. They are running fiber to the node, which they will place in neighborhoods and run copper the rest of the way. That node will be like the CO, so it will be like they are closer to the CO. |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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Huh? Do you know anything about FTTC platforms? The 1.5 limitation is a limitation of the 1st generation IFITL platform which composes a small part of the BST FTTC network and is schecduled for a complete overhaul sometime in the future. It's only stuck at 1.5 because Tellabs abandoned the platform for the most part and never came out with upgrades. The MX platform fully supports high bandwidth applications and the VDSL2 stuff isn't that far off.
And the RT doesn't "amplify" a DSL signal to allow greater range. It simply acts as the CO DSLAM would out in the field. The magic number for ADSL2+ is 5k for that. Which is something BST is pursuing. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
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I think bogey780 is a BLS or SBC employee???
Ask BLS DSL ifitl customers how bad BLS fiber is. They will tell you: 1.5 mg, that's it???? I can't upgrade? What blithering moron decided that crap??? I can't home network without a MCSE certification and a $5000 router in my house???
3,000 ft is only little over 1/2 mile from the home. Now if these morons would put RTs out, you could get DSL 6.0 up to 18,000 ft from the home (whopping 3 miles+).
AT&T = Antiquated Telegraph & Telephone |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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1 mile frmm the DSLAM for ADSL2+. VDSL2 is about 800ft which is well within range for the plant design.
Currently the upgrades Bell is deploying are in order to make this likely. By next year there should be about a 50-55% availability and by 2009 it'll be 75-80%. |
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Jigsaw
Stardust We Are
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join:2000-10-21
Cleveland, OH
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said by bogey780  :'Unlike copper (24 mgs is max)' That is incorrect. The VDSL2 standard is up to 100mb/s and the ADSL2+ standard supports seamless bonding to allow as many multiples of 24mb/s as Bell cares to build out. How far can they serve it from the CO?If its only 2 or 3 miles they won't have everyone using it.
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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Not going to argue the numbers but the announcement had it set at 1.32 shares of T for a share of BLS. Figure it out from there.
"Exactly where is BLS and T putting VDSL2"
You unfamiliar with the colossal number of FTTC customers BLS currently has? |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
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T has to accept $21 billion in BLS debt. The original price was $77-78 billion plus the debt making it a near $100 billion merger.
It doesn't really matter: T shareholders will get the stick since it is a "cashless" merger.
If you figure the market value drop of T then BLS stock dropping too, one could argue a replay of Time Warner writing off AOL. In the end, T stockholders will pay dearly for the buyout unless they are willing to wait a few years providing T doesn't bungle it (or continue to lose 3 million POTS customers a quarter).
Exactly where is BLS and T putting VDSL2? 3000 ft from the CO which leaves out what 85% of customers??? |
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bogey780
join:2004-03-19
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'Unlike copper (24 mgs is max)'
That is incorrect. The VDSL2 standard is up to 100mb/s and the ADSL2+ standard supports seamless bonding to allow as many multiples of 24mb/s as Bell cares to build out.
'(T paid $98 billion for BLS).'
Incorrect also. BLS hasn't been acquired yet. It's a stock buyout which will be about $65 billion as it stands now. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
| reply to Chris 313
Verizon FIOS, which they've already budgeted for (about $100 billion over 10 years), is the only one keeping up with technology in Telco land.
Cable runs a different system. Unlike copper (24 mgs is max), coax, with the 3.0 standard, could crush them if the cable companies want to do it.
Verizon is quickly establishing itself as the best HSI player while the other Bells play with their OLD toys. I'd hate to be in Qwest territory, which is like a 3rd world country.
Funny, the only player Comcast, a predator that said it wanted to bankrupt the Bells, is scared of is FIOS.
AT&T buy Verizon? LOL! That would be about a $300 billion purchase (T paid $98 billion for BLS). |
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