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reply to mikef1
Re: HAH!

You are misunderstanding the point of the caching. It's not to ensure legal compliance it's there to save ISPs upload bandwidth (remote clients served from the cache, not from their users eating up cable modem upstream) and transit costs.

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ISP’s would not want to cache content deemed illegal.
Quite. Which is why they plead ignorance as far as the contents of their news servers goes. They are just message IDs, and that is all the ISP will claim to see them as.

Same goes for the Cachelogic appliances. NTL (the UK cableco trialling) have no idea at all what is on that box. The only data that identifies content is meaningless hashes. This way they have no liability for what is on the caches as they have no way of finding out.

As soon as an ISP admits knowledge of and therefore liability for the content on a server of theirs they open up a whole world of hurt for themselves. No sane ISP will be even considering running a readably indexed P2P cache server, the overheads of running it legally would be monstrous.

PS Guess who I used to work for


mikef1
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I still don’t think this would fly over here in the US.

RIAA/MPAA would use the same tactics on ISP’s that they use on consumers.
Use an account with that ISP, get the IP of the caching server, and download illegal content. Show that ISP is providing illegal content and sue.

They can claim ignorance, but IMHO when it gets to court claiming ignorance wont work.
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May 3rd, @08:34PM

Even if it would fly (and I agree that the RIAA, MPAA or other party would find a way to make it illegal), I don't see caching BT as feasable. The amount and size of "content" running across BT is almost limitless. Caching web traffic can take up a lot of space...1000's of DVDs, ISOs (legal or not), software, or even "pieces" of torrents, etc. Are ISPs really interested in creating a cache to try to tackle this? We're talking about a lot of space needed to make this even a little effective. It would probably cost them less to buy more bandwidth to support the traffic.

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reply to mikef1
It is not illegal to provide a caching server, even if 99.999999999% of what is on it is illegal, so long as they don't look at it. They can provide the cache server and just set it and forget it, and so long as they don't check to see if the content is copyrighted, it won't be illegal.


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said by Necronomikro See Profile :

It is not illegal to provide a caching server, even if 99.999999999% of what is on it is illegal, so long as they don't look at it. They can provide the cache server and just set it and forget it, and so long as they don't check to see if the content is copyrighted, it won't be illegal.
Exactly. There is no difference between running a P2P cache and running news servers. Both have a little legit content and enormous amounts of not so legit content
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