tomkb
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| server naming convention advice
We are bringing our first cluster servers online shortly. Need to name them, but not sure what to call them.
My thinking is the name should be able to support 2 things. One, you may have more than 1 cluster. Two, you may have many nodes inside the cluster.
Any advice or opinions? |
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| said by tomkb  :We are bringing our first cluster servers online shortly. Need to name them, but not sure what to call them. My thinking is the name should be able to support 2 things. One, you may have more than 1 cluster. Two, you may have many nodes inside the cluster. You have many options: some frequent naming options are based on mythology (Greek, Roman gods) or celestial bodies (planets, stars, constellations, etc).
Or, use your imagination: Monopoly properties (based on Atlantic City street names); rivers; mountains; insects; historical figures... |
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nixen
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said by tomkb :We are bringing our first cluster servers online shortly. Need to name them, but not sure what to call them. My thinking is the name should be able to support 2 things. One, you may have more than 1 cluster. Two, you may have many nodes inside the cluster. Any advice or opinions? Overall, you need to know, what TYPE of naming scheme you want: technical (e.g., orclus01) or cutesie (e.g., bob).
For clusters, it depends on the type of cluster. If it's a compute cluster (e.g., a render farm) where you have the potential to add an infinite number of nodes, then cutsie names are kind of pointless.
If they are to be active/passive paired failover clusters, then twin names are common (frick and frack, heckle and jeckle, pollux and castor, etc.).
If they have the potential of growing, but by a finite size, then a naming theme like characters in a comic (Xmen and Brotherhood names are good in this regard) is fairly common.
Any way, if you can tell us the type of naming you're looking for, we can probably better help you with a convention. 
-tom
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dave
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not in ohio | I prefer 'cutesie' - I can remember bob, carol, ted, alice better than I can remember ussrv01a, ussrv512, ukeng21, etc. |
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sybille
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How about "fruit"? Then the clusters could be names things like "apple," orange," grape," etc. and the nodes in the clusters could be "seeds," "pit," "pulp," "peel," etc. Lol.
Or maybe you could choose a building or house name, and then the clusters could be different rooms and the nodes pieces of furniture within them.
Or "forest," with various "trees," each having different "leaves," "needles," "cones," "sap"...?
It's kind of fun to think of possibilities starting with a theme.  |
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Steve
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I name all my servers "George"
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tomkb
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No, the cutsie naming is out.
These would be for database servers for our website. There will be 2 servers in this cluster.
But, down the road, I want to have another database cluster for our datawarehouse sql server. This would also have 2 nodes.
didn't know if there was a standard when it came to clustered servers. |
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Steve
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| said by tomkb :No, the cutsie naming is out. Then how about not-cute? Name them after mods:
fatness, Mordy, badmagicnumber, etc.
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nixen
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said by dave :I prefer 'cutesie' - I can remember bob, carol, ted, alice better than I can remember ussrv01a, ussrv512, ukeng21, etc. Likewise. People just tend to look askew at the names I chose. Our old DMZ web servers were "crash" and "burn". Used to have a development host at my previous job that I named "coredump". I named a four-node cluster after The Young Ones.
-tom
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nixen
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said by sybille :How about "fruit"? Then the clusters could be names things like "apple," orange," grape," etc. and the nodes in the clusters could be "seeds," "pit," "pulp," "peel," etc. Lol. Or maybe you could choose a building or house name, and then the clusters could be different rooms and the nodes pieces of furniture within them. Or "forest," with various "trees," each having different "leaves," "needles," "cones," "sap"...? When I was at Bell Atalantic, I named our development lab's UNIX systems after demons. Ultimately had to change all their names because someone got "offended".
-tom
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yock
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Within our organization they're named line this:
Production: [Application Name][Scope][Node Number]
For example, the main web server might be named: IISPUB01
IIS = Internet information Services, PUB = Public, Node 01
Dev/Test: [OS][Landscape][Node Number]
Example: AIXTH01
AIX = AIX 5/L, TH = Test, 01 = Node
This works well for us, but our NOC is small compared to larger companies.
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jmirabella
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we try to keep some comical, so if a service dies at 4am and our noc calls us, we can laugh while trying to wake up when told ' dhcp is down on yourmom ' |
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nixen
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| said by jmirabella :we try to keep some comical, so if a service dies at 4am and our noc calls us, we can laugh while trying to wake up when told ' dhcp is down on yourmom ' No, that would be "yourmom went down again", or, "dang, yourmom goes down more than a $15 whore".
-tom
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nixen
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said by yock :Within our organization they're named line this: Production: [Application Name][Scope][Node Number] For example, the main web server might be named: IISPUB01 IIS = Internet information Services, PUB = Public, Node 01 Dev/Test: [OS][Landscape][Node Number] Example: AIXTH01 AIX = AIX 5/L, TH = Test, 01 = Node This works well for us, but our NOC is small compared to larger companies. Gah... are they named such in the public DNS entries? I know customers that would FREAK if that kind of info was in their DNS.
-tom
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benyto
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said by nixen :I named a four-node cluster after The Young Ones. Nice. Not many fans out there. |
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yock
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Certainly not! Outward facing DNS entries are nice and pretty. Internally there isn't much need for pretty DNS, as development teams don't work on more than one project at a time, so there isn't any matter of confusing whether this web app exists on Node for or this one on Node 17. Developers are only working on one app.
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Smitedogg
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Use polyhedrons. "Can you check the drives on Great disnub dirhombidodecahedron?"
...at least that's what I would do. |
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try this, it works for us.
PKDACC01
P = Production (can use a T for test or D for development)
KD = Location (Kansas Data center in this case)
ACC = application name or abbreviation
01 = server number in application cluster
Works for us very well. We know exactly what type of server it is, where it is, what it does.
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dave
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said by yock :This works well for us Wouldn't work well for me - I'm a lousy typist, and there's only one keystroke between 'scheduled shutdown of intended system' and 'ohhhhhhh CRAP !!'.
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yock
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| said by dave :said by yock :This works well for us Wouldn't work well for me - I'm a lousy typist, and there's only one keystroke between 'scheduled shutdown of intended system' and 'ohhhhhhh CRAP !!'. Heh, well, thankfully I'm not a NOC associate, so I don't have to worry about it. I should clarify though, it works for "them" =)
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