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Transmaster
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If this is true......

What a bunch of crap it seems to me it would make filtering a whole bunch easier. You could say alright you want to do porn ok then you have to register on the .xxx domain. Sure there is no forcing off shore porno vendors to go to .xxx but is sure would be helpful in those countries that might require it.
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Maybe they are trying to ward off potential liabilities when someone plays the censorship card. I mean, using the public library computers wouldn't be fun anymore, and those previously 'doing their thing' will have to go back to the magazine racks in the basement to have their fun.


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reply to Transmaster
Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees.
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net idiot

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This is why I think that complete and total "Net Neutrality" is needed, and also for ICANN and the DNS system. I don't like pr0n, but ICANN (which has "governance" over the Internet) should be allowed to make its own sovereign policies and not those influenced by governments or corporations. If a country wants to filter out objectional material on the Internet that is on its own turf, fine let them do that.Due to the nature of the Internet and the DNS system it has been shown that ANY country that has power and influence over the Internet will bend it to its will, which will affect everybody.


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reply to TKJunkMail
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees.
Of course, your post - once again - has nothing to do with the matter at hand, namely that did the US hijack ICANN?

We all know that it did, upon request of Falwell-like lunatic evangelist retards.


kamm

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said by net idiot :

This is why I think that complete and total "Net Neutrality" is needed, and also for ICANN and the DNS system. I don't like pr0n, but ICANN (which has "governance" over the Internet) should be allowed to make its own sovereign policies and not those influenced by governments or corporations. If a country wants to filter out objectional material on the Internet that is on its own turf, fine let them do that.Due to the nature of the Internet and the DNS system it has been shown that ANY country that has power and influence over the Internet will bend it to its will, which will affect everybody.
You never gonna get that as long as 10 out of the 13 root servers on US soil and half of them under direct DoD or other US govermental or educational control.
No way.

I, for one, fully support OSRN:»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORSN - and don't think it's an accident that Paul Vixie has joined OSRN last year.


R4M0N
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reply to net idiot
said by net idiot :

This is why I think that complete and total "Net Neutrality" is needed, and also for ICANN and the DNS system. I don't like pr0n, but ICANN (which has "governance" over the Internet) should be allowed to make its own sovereign policies and not those influenced by governments or corporations. If a country wants to filter out objectional material on the Internet that is on its own turf, fine let them do that.Due to the nature of the Internet and the DNS system it has been shown that ANY country that has power and influence over the Internet will bend it to its will, which will affect everybody.
I agre with most of your post, except for the "filtering out" part. Who decides what is "objectional material" and how about letting the individual make the decision to filter out the particular material?

I'm all for the idea of a .xxx domain, but I'm afraid it would not have much effect on the problem.

Porn peddlers will just move to a foreign server and continue doing what they do now: register domains like whitehouse.com, etc...


R4M0N
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reply to kamm
How about posting the proof that it did. As far as I know, the government can lobby for what it wants, just like any lobbying group.

To say it hijacked ICANN must be proven by facts that showit forced ICANN to do something it didn't want to.


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reply to kamm
said by kamm See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees.
Of course, your post - once again - has nothing to do with the matter at hand, namely that did the US hijack ICANN?

We all know that it did, upon request of Falwell-like lunatic evangelist retards.
Still waiting for your proof.
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said by 72276539 See Profile :

Still waiting for your proof.
Better bring a chair. You're gonna be waiting for a long time....and wading thru a whole lot of randomly bold text

-edit 21:23 Eastern- the silence is substantial {/snickers}
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rit56

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reply to TKJunkMail
Tkjunkmail........ well, well, well.....suddenly you're not pro business. what happened? are you ashamed of sex and sexuality? I'm not and as a tax paying citizen I think it's a good idea. contrary to what most right wing cabal members are writing here it will centralize porn and make it easier for parents to block their kids from viewing it. typical Republican misinformed hide your head under a rock reaction. know why porn is so prevalent? because major blue chip corporations on the stock exchange are making tons of money from it.... money dictates in the USA. you people are amazing. anything you don't like or agree with there is no margin.... well most men and a lot of women like porn for the most part so it's not going away. learn to live with it.


Combat Chuck
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Re: If this is true......

said by rit56 See Profile :

I'm not and as a tax paying citizen I think it's a good idea. contrary to what most right wing cabal members are writing here it will centralize porn and make it easier for parents to block their kids from viewing it.
Oh yes cause all the .com porn sites will suddenly move over to .xxx....oh wait, no, no they won't as no one is being forced over to the domain nor should they.

All .xxx does is provide another domain that porn sites that want brand consistency have to buy and non porn sites have to buy to avoid being associated with porn.

Boy this topic bring out all the idiots, raving lunatics happy shiny people.
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R4M0N
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I had not thought about that one point. People (corps. and individuals) being almost forced to buy a .xxx domain just to keep their name from being associated with porn.


MemphisPCGuy
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reply to Transmaster
I can see it now ...

www.metmuseum.xxx


insomniac84

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reply to kamm
You won't find any proof of the government hijacking ICANN, because ICANN just dropped a stupid idea, they weren't forced into anything by the US government. The only ones that say they did, are going to be the cry babies that want the UN to control the internet, even though the US created it.


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said by R4M0N See Profile :

I had not thought about that one point. People (corps. and individuals) being almost forced to buy a .xxx domain just to keep their name from being associated with porn.
Few people did, which is part of the reason why this whole .xxx situation is a lose lose situation for ICANN and the DOC. The DOC can't say it's against xxx cause they were lobbied by the stupid uber-right christian groups (who have a habit of opening their big mouths both without understanding the situation, and in the same manner they berate the left wing groups of doing); but they can't be for it because xxx is one of the stupidest ideas ever once you look into it, and it would usher in another era of cybersquatting people like Microsoft and Apple.

Then there's the whole, if it goes thru we now have to fix it deal, which means we're now back into the whole issue of figuring out how to quantitatively decide what is porn and the cries of censorship that brings, as well as reconciling it with everyone else in the world.
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reply to 72276539
said by 72276539 See Profile :

said by kamm See Profile :

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Having an xxx domain wasn't going to do anything that the company promoting it said it would. And that is - segregate all porn into one place where it could be blocked by those who didn't want it. The porn industry could still use .com or .country initials, etc. So it was just another place they could sell their services. I think the only one who cares is the company who was going to manage the new domain's registrations and collect all the fees.
Of course, your post - once again - has nothing to do with the matter at hand, namely that did the US hijack ICANN?

We all know that it did, upon request of Falwell-like lunatic evangelist retards.
Still waiting for your proof.
You will be waiting, well, forever.


Freshie

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It would leave the .com available, but they could enfore a forwarding policy.
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