  ieolus Support The Clecs
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I agree!
I also don't understand why anyone would be against a municipality building the infrastructure and inviting ISPs to compete for services. If Quest thinks they can provide a better broadband service than Joe-ISP, then let them compete on the same fiber to the home!
It does noone good to have 10 companies all wiring up the streets (assuming 10 companies can afford it, which of course only 2 types can... cable and ILEC) and providing entries into the last mile when it can be done once AND give the consumer a choice (OMG, not a choice?!).
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join:2001-08-24 TX | we are allready to tax'ed up here in Washington 8.9 sales tax and new gas's tax's due for july 1st but i think thay might rais tax's again for fiber there allready nailing up here |
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  batterup I Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ clubs:
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| reply to ieolus said by ieolus :I also don't understand why anyone would be against a municipality building the infrastructure and inviting ISPs to compete for services. If Quest thinks they can provide a better broadband service than Joe-ISP, then let them compete on the same fiber to the home! If the government would give up regulatory control private business would compete. How can business compete against an entity that has control over them. |
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  ieolus Support The Clecs
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| Of course that is complete baloney Batterup. What regulatory control is there on building out a fiber network to run 'net access? The biggest obstacle to that is $$$, and tons of it. Only the current monopolies have enough to make it worth while, and only if they make sure there is no competition. -- "Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp |
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| said by ieolus :Of course that is complete baloney Batterup. What regulatory control is there on building out a fiber network to run 'net access? The government regulates what the bits and bytes can do on the fiber. NO TV unless the town approves. |
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  ieolus Support The Clecs
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| I think we have a miscommunication... when I say government, I'm usually refering to the Federal Government in Washinton DC.
What the State or Municipality does it a completely different animal. So according to your above statement, you disagree then that a locality (whether city or county) has the right to regulate access to it's public spaces? -- "Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp |
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  batterup I Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ clubs:
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| said by ieolus :I think we have a miscommunication... when I say government, I'm usually refering to the Federal Government in Washinton DC. What the State or Municipality does it a completely different animal. So according to your above statement, you disagree then that a locality (whether city or county) has the right to regulate access to it's public spaces? Only if it is in direct competition with a business. What right does a business have to regulate a competitor? |
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  ieolus Support The Clecs
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| said by batterup :said by ieolus :I think we have a miscommunication... when I say government, I'm usually refering to the Federal Government in Washinton DC. What the State or Municipality does it a completely different animal. So according to your above statement, you disagree then that a locality (whether city or county) has the right to regulate access to it's public spaces? Only if it is in direct competition with a business. What right does a business have to regulate a competitor? That is kind of the point... it isn't a business, it is the municipality. You know, democratically elected by the people who actually live there. Again, are you saying the people who live in the town (city, locality etc.) don't have the right to choose their own service and how it is provided?
Why in the world would you think a business would have some G-d given right to do business w/o any competition, because that is what I keep reading into your words...? -- "Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp |
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  batterup I Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ clubs:
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| said by ieolus :Why in the world would you think a business would have some G-d given right to do business w/o any competition, because that is what I keep reading into your words...? You are reading the words through dirty glasses. When the town becomes the business it is no longer just a government it is a business. A business with the power to limit competition as it is also the regulator.
It would be like giving the Cable company the power to regulate The Phone Company. |
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  ieolus Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19 Duluth, GA | No, it wouldn't. The Cable company isn't elected by the people who live in the town.
What exactly do you think a municipality should do for its citizens then? -- "Speak for yourself "Chadmaster" - lesopp |
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  batterup I Can Not Tell A Lie. Premium join:2003-02-06 Netcong, NJ clubs:
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| said by ieolus :No, it wouldn't. The Cable company isn't elected by the people who live in the town. What exactly do you think a municipality should do for its citizens then? The government should not do what is written in The Communist Manifesto. |
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  ieolus Support The Clecs
join:2001-06-19 Duluth, GA | What?!
You are demented. |
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