dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
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Re: Nebraska
They are so cheap. Goodness forbid they offer DSL to all areas. Oh well, you're rural, you're not entitled to DSL like someone right by the central office. Instead of dropping the prices further let's expand the service  .
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The Beer
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| I think it's a little unrealistic to expect them to offer DSL to a house 20 miles from the CO.
There are wireless options available (Non satellite) to these people.
If we want to use the USF to provide DSL to every home in Nebraska then be it. They chose to live in the stix and it comes with it's consequences, we don't subsidise their Gas to drive to the grocery store, why in the heck should we subsidise their DSL?
It would be interesting to see that statistic on what % of Nebraska CO's are equipped with DSL, I'm sure it would be rather high. |
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OinkOinkOink
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| ... They chose to live in the stix and it comes with it's consequences, we don't subsidise their Gas to drive to the grocery store, why in the heck should we subsidise their DSL? The heck with the rural farmers. We don't need their gobdam food and the sodbusters don't need dsl. I'll just get my food and beer from city stores. |
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stomp357
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| said by OinkOinkOink :The heck with the rural farmers. We don't need their gobdam food and the sodbusters don't need dsl. I'll just get my food and beer from city stores.
I hope your being sarcastic! Unless Star Trek technology is here, and we can replicate food, I needs them. Even fake meat (Soy burgers) come from farms. |
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roamer1
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said by The Beer  :I think it's a little unrealistic to expect them to offer DSL to a house 20 miles from the CO. It isn't just the rural farming areas, many of which Qwest doesn't even serve anyway; Qwest has rather poor DSL deployment even in large cities such as Denver and SLC.
In general, the Baby Bells (BellSouth is somewhat of an exception) are far worse when it comes to rural DSL deployment than are smaller independent phone companies. Some of it has to do with network design issues, but a lot of it has to do with the fact that Bells don't believe rural areas are profitable (hence Verizon selling off entire states and Qwest selling off large parts of its service area) while rural areas are independents' bread and butter.
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The Beer
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| I don't know if I agree.
I don't think there is a house in the Omaha metro where you can't either get Qwest DSL or Qwest TeleChoice Cable in addition to Cox HSI.
Business hurt since in Telechoice areas Qwest is not permitted to install DSL, such as my office. Qwest did not install TeleChoice in Businesses.
One item of note was that Cable penetration is 91% according to that survey, so these people just may not have DSL but only 9% of Nebraska can't get cable internet.
Even that is skewed since I bet some of that 9% is serviced by DSL and not Cable.
So I thought I would grab a random BFE Nebraska town, Spencer, NE pop 541.
Yep, Has DSL »www.nntc.net/nntcnet.htm |
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Tsume
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Johnson City, TN | reply to The Beer
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There are wireless options available (Non satellite) to these people.
Umm, no? |
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dslwanter
Why would I want DSL? I have FTTH
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You're missing my point. As a company who is to service the customer they should strive to make these technologies available. Think of it this way. The cheapest phone package is what $14 a month ballpark? DSL from AT&T is $12.99 a month. I think if they can afford to bring POTS there they most definitely could afford to bring DSL there. Do you really think the telcos make a profit off of POTS in the rural areas? I don't think so. It's the same idea. Only POTS is regulated by the government therefore they have no choice but to deliver POTS to everyone. If DSL were regulated in the same way, the same would be true. They say the cost of DSL deployment is high, the cost of POTS deployment even higher. A small DSLAM would be a small expense compared to an entire CO or RT being built with copper lines running to bring people POTS.
EDIT: And as far as the wireless connection that is untrue. Many rural areas can't even get that. Case and point right up the road from me, in fact you can't even call it rural because it's not populated.
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The Beer
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| I must be mistaken, thought we were talking about Nebraska.
I'm sorry that unpopulated area is missing out on the Broadband revolution, their population must be really mad about that!
Wait, that area is not populated?
Case in point, why service an unpopulated area?
Yes the world deserves "High Speed Internet" who says DSL has to be the medium?
Unless you live in a rural, wide open area in BFE WITHOUT a clear view of the southern sky you have options, that is my point.
DSL is a bad technology to serve rural areas, it's just the way it is.
This page shows 90 cities that have WIRELESS coverage alone in Nebraska »www.bbwexchange.com/wisps/nebraska-wisps.asp
This is just one wireless map I found, the arrow is pointing to that 500 person town I named above with DSL.
I'm sorry you don't need DSL to have High Speed Internet. |
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rawgerz
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The data the guy based this on was from the FCC, I think we all know how reliable their data is..
Besides that.. I swear there is no DSL in my area for 30 miles. I'm less than 2 miles from my CO which has load coils installed, even so I doubt I would appreciate the slow speeds they would implement anyways..
Good Ol' GTE infrastructure 
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