sremick
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| FreeBSD is not Windows For you FreeBSD users and advocates out there, I'd like to point you to something I (sorta) did up:
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Maybe you'll find it of use for people you try to assist. 
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Steve
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deblin
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| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by deblin  :Probably just a hiccup IIS, perhaps? | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
join:2001-11-11
Bristol, VT
| Well my webserver ate it, and I don't have a local copy  yeah that was dumb of me.
So unless someone has a cached copy, I need to redo it.
Incidentally, this has been happening a lot with my webhost lately. They are in the process of moving from FreeBSD to Linux. Go figure.
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deblin
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| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows Unfortunately I visited it after Steve's post, which cached the empty copy, overwriting the old one
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
join:2001-11-11
Bristol, VT
| Ok I did it over again. Hopefully I got all my edits from last time.
I don't pretend to be the author... it's mostly a find&replace job from the original "Linux is NOT Windows". I just got tired of referring people to the Linux one and saying "just replace Linux with FreeBSD and it mostly fits". I figured, it's licensed under CC so why not make a FreeBSD version.
I did a few minor tweaks to un-Linuxify it, but if you find anything I missed please let me know. Thanks
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wmcbrine
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1 edit | Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by sremick :I don't pretend to be the author... it's mostly a find&replace job from the original "Linux is NOT Windows". But now you need "FreeBSD is not Linux". (Should be much shorter.)
My girlfriend is also a MS user. I tried to explain the "open source" idea to her once, she said "I guess that's interesting if your a computer nerd, but, if you used that as a pick-up line, you would probably still be dating your hand". Not everything in life is a pickup line.
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@novartis.com | Oh, c'mon: "/linux/freebsd/g" does not justify the title of "derivative work"
Page works fine for me, but a couple of images are broken.. | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by TheAuthor :Oh, c'mon: "/linux/freebsd/g" does not justify the title of "derivative work" Page works fine for me, but a couple of images are broken.. Heh, well I'm just trying to adhere to the language set forth in the CC license, so I don't bring on the original author's wrath. "By the book", so to speak.
I did do some minor edits, but it is quite possible over time I will tweak it more. This is just a first shot.
Any image problems were just temporary, I already fixed them and everything should be working now.
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1 edit | I have a cached copy if you need it.
edit: posted too late...never mind | |
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@novartis.com | I take it back, the images are fixed now - that was quick  | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by TheAuthor :> so I don't bring on the original author's wrath.Don't worry - you haven't Haha, I get it now. Sorry, I'm slow today...
You seem to have broken the article's W3C compliance tho
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| Well honestly, the only reason I made a FreeBSD version was cosmetic. The points in the original Linux version are somewhat generic across all unix-based non-Windows OSes. So I was finding myself in the FreeBSD community referring people frequently to the page, but somewhat hesitantly since it was branded "Linux" even though the relevant discussion was FreeBSD.
The edits I did other than find&replace were to simply make sure that the article remained factually-correct when applied to FreeBSD, not to fill in any sort of gaping void.
So basically, my version isn't done because of any technical/factual need, or to promote FreeBSD over Linux... it's purely superficial. So I'm not sure that any sort of introduction is necessary. For the purposes it'll be used, I think "getting to the meat" of things is more-important. As long as the original author is ok with how I went about it.
Incidentally, it validates again now.
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sybille
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| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by sremick :So basically, my version isn't done because of any technical/factual need, or to promote FreeBSD over Linux... it's purely superficial. So I'm not sure that any sort of introduction is necessary. For the purposes it'll be used, I think "getting to the meat" of things is more-important. As long as the original author is ok with how I went about it. Yeah, I agree that as long as TheAuthor is OK with what you're doing then adding something is not a requirement. But I still think it would be interesting for people, even if you only said something about how you've found yourself suggesting the original article to people and that this is why you've wanted to publish it with the cosmetic changes. | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by TheAuthor :By the way, have you considered having the more-familiar daemon representing BSD rather than the bowling-ball-with-a-red-banana logo that is, after all, the newcomer? Even my FreeBSD-using gf didn't actually know about the new logo until I mentioned it to her... (No offence meant to any fans of the bowling ball ) Haha, actually I hate the "bowling ball". But I was trying to do the right thing... My version of the article refers to FreeBSD, and that IS the official FreeBSD logo whether we like it or not *shrug*. I considered using the "Beastie" daemon... and very well may switch it at some point. But I figured I'd try the ball for now and see how I felt about it.
The more I stare at it, the more I hate the ball...
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@enta.net | You could have an animated GIF switching between the two | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by TheAuthor :You could have an animated GIF switching between the two Haha, or maybe one with the ball skewered on Beastie's pitchfork?
Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD?
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Steve
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| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by sremick :Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend who uses FreeBSD? He's a computer geek, so the question should be:Dude, how'd you get a girlfriend?
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
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Bristol, VT
| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows I have a girlfriend, but other than her already being a Firefox user when I found her, I suspect she'll always be a Windows user. She has quizzed me in-depth about my desktop though, asking why I don't use Windows and questions about what I do run.
She's going to law school and I don't think me replacing XP on her laptop with FreeBSD would go over to well. Heh.
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| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by sremick :She has quizzed me in-depth about my desktop though, asking why I don't use Windows and questions about what I do run. Same here, my fiancee has asked about the unix desktop thing and for some reason when trying to explain it to other people she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from.
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| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by sporkme : she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from. Maybe she's spending time with him? | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
join:2001-11-11
Bristol, VT
| Hey, a gf who has heard of Solaris is almost as hot as one who uses FreeBSD.
Usually things go something like this:
"What do you use if you don't use Windows or Mac?"
"I use FreeBSD."
*blank look*
"Umm, well ever heard of Linux?"
"Yeah."
"Well, it's not Linux, but it's more like Linux than it's like Windows."
"Oh..."
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computx
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| ... for some reason when trying to explain it to other people she always tells them "he uses something called solaris". I have no idea where that came from.
Does calling it a rogue imply the user is also?
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@novartis.com | Re: FreeBSD is not Windows Nit-picking, I know - but the "alt" of the FreeBSD logo is still set to "Linux"... | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
join:2001-11-11
Bristol, VT
| Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by TheAuthor :
Nit-picking, I know - but the "alt" of the FreeBSD logo is still set to "Linux"... Ha, already ahead of you. I caught that myself last night and fixed it.
I also got the page to validate XHTML 1.1 so hopefully we're good for a while.
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wmcbrine
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| said by computx :A lady I know was overheard telling a friend I use some sort of "rogue" operating system called linux. Does calling it a rogue imply the user is also? I hope so. I remember once reading an (ahem) BSD user trying to put down Linux with a slogan like "Linux: putting power in the wrong hands." Of course I took it as a compliment.
But it's amazing the slavish mindset some people have, especially when it comes to computers. Instead of thinking "What am I free to do?", they think "What am I supposed to do?". | |
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shrtckt1
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| My girlfriend is also a MS user. I tried to explain the "open source" idea to her once, she said "I guess that's interesting if your a computer nerd, but, if you used that as a pick-up line, you would probably still be dating your hand".  The funny thing is she does not mind asking for help when her XP box gives her problems. | |
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sremick
FreeBSD on the desktop
join:2001-11-11
Bristol, VT | You should get her a Solaris theme for her computer
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wmcbrine
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1 edit | Re: FreeBSD is not Windows said by fcisler :* OSX is based upon BSD (freebsd if i'm not mistaken) and called aqua, again, IIRC No... Mac OS X is loosely based on a FreeBSD userland, but with a Mach kernel. The result is distributed as "Darwin". "Aqua", on the other hand, is the GUI, and is not part of Darwin. It's based more or less on NextStep.
I can't agree with the over-yonder.net site, when it says "BSD is designed. Linux is grown. Perhaps that's the only succinct way to describe it, and possibly the most correct." It seems to me they were both "grown". | |
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z9_87
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| hmm, first thing I thought of when I started reading it is has anyone ever tried making a open source version of windows from scratch, or reverse engineering it or something like that. A full blown free windows that runs windows apps like windows does. And I don't me like lindows. Now that would be crazy, especially if M$ didn't sue the crap out of the creator.
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No, i really like that you took the time to put that all together...