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2 edits | reply to wdoa Re: step in the right direction
Here in North-Central WI, Charter is overpriced.
A sampling of prices locally, per month: ...Charter------------------------------- Verizon
$36 384/128 kbps $14.95 768/128 kbps
$46 3meg /256 kbps $29.95 3 meg/ 768 kbps $35 3 meg/ 768 kbps Dry Loop
For Charter add $10 if not subscribed to any other service. For Verizon add about $5 to regular price if subscribed to Dry Loop DSL. Both: add applicable sales taxes / fees. Prices show, if not specified are the 'bundle' rates for those services. | |  cluth
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1 edit | Ugh, you folks in the Lower 48 make me mad! Up here, GCI's a great provider and has good customer service, but we're paying $99.99 per month for 10/384--and that's on TOP of a subscription to "The Ultimate Package" (a telephone/cable TV/broadband lite bundle, as GCI is both our cable provider and our local CLEC). The Ultimate Package is $79.99 per month. Without the Ultimate Package, $99.99 gets you 4/384. And add $7 if you don't have cable TV with GCI.
The competition's almost worse: the ILEC, ACS, offers 320/240 DSL for $49 and 1/320 for $70 (add $5 if you don't have ACS long distance). They offer nothing more than 1mbps unless you're a business.
I subscribe to GCI'S Ultimate Package, some extra long distance minutes (total of 500), a DVR, and the 5/256 cable modem plan (only a $49.99 upgrade to the Ultimate Package), and my GCI bill is $170-ish per month. Yikes. I've been thinking about ways to trim that down, but I don't have a reliable fallback (both my EV-DO and my GSM cell phone service is iffy around my house, despite that it's a well-populated area of the city), and I'm too much of a techno-geek to give anything up.
My point: be grateful for what you have down there at the prices you do! (And if any state regulators are reading this, hint: it'd be nice to figure out how to get a little more competition up here...how about adding another franchise license up here or something...) | |   Rick Premium,MVM join:2001-02-06 Waterbury, CT clubs: 
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said by AMDUSER :Here in North-Central WI, Charter is overpriced. A sampling of prices locally, per month: ... Charter------------------------------- Verizon $36 384/128 kbps $14.95 768/128 kbps
$46 3meg /256 kbps $29.95 3 meg/ 768 kbps $35 3 meg/ 768 kbps Dry Loop
For Charter add $10 if not subscribed to any other service. For Verizon add about $5 to regular price if subscribed to Dry Loop DSL. Both: add applicable sales taxes / fees. Prices show, if not specified are the 'bundle' rates for those services. Aren't you kind of comparing apples, and oranges here? Those appear to be Verizon's promotional prices, not what their price will be when the specials end at the end of the contract term.
Cable companies also offer special deals. It's just that they don't advertise them in such a way as to make people think they'll get it forever.
In fact, here's one from Comcast. »www.comcastoffers.com/1/?cid=53069
When you combine the 19.99 month pricing plus the 75.00 cash back plus free modem, this is in fact a much better deal than even the much lower speed DSL providers would offer.
The problem here is with the Telco industry and the fact that they've advertised these very low rate specials in such a way and so intensively that people now think that's their regular pricing..when it's not.
3MB dsl service for 39.99, which the price will go up to after the promo ends, is not competitive with 6MB and higher speeds from comcast for the mid 40.00 range.
And, 30.00 384k to 1500k dsl speeds which the lower tier dsl packages will go to is hardly competitive with that either.
This pricing scheme is the kinds of tricks the DSL industry has had to resort to to try to win customers.
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| 3MB dsl service for 39.99, which the price will go up to after the promo ends, is not competitive with 6MB and higher speeds from comcast for the mid 40.00 range.
And, 30.00 384k to 1500k dsl speeds which the lower tier dsl packages will go to is hardly competitive with that either.
This pricing scheme is the kinds of tricks the DSL industry has had to resort to to try to win customers.
I can't speak for other providers, but verizon's yearly contract isn't a limited promo. You can renew your contract and keep the $30/month rate if you like. I don't see anything tricky about that, just call them and let them know you want the contract rate instead of month-to-month.
The raw connection speed (while important) isn't the deciding factor for my broadband anyway, it's the price to performance ratio. And in my area, DSL is superior in that respect. ($30 for 3000/768 DSL, or $55 for 3000/256 cable.) Sure there's a 5 meg cable tier, but I have no need for that kind of speed and it's double the price I'm paying now.
The cable co's are free to offer 10 meg service if they like, but if they charge too much they aren't going to have any takers. | |   Varlik Without Honor You Will Never Be Free Premium join:2002-01-06 Anderson, SC
1 edit | reply to Rick said by Rick :3MB dsl service for 39.99, which the price will go up to after the promo ends, is not competitive with 6MB and higher speeds from comcast for the mid 40.00 range. Is the price range listed for Comcast HSI including a fee for not having cable tv?
With Charter 3M / 256 runs me $42.95 that's with Cable tv. Without cable tv it's $52.95.
With Charter 5M / 512 would run me $52.95 with cable tv. Without cable tv it's $62.95. A little absurd.
10M / 1M would run me$72.95 with cable tv. Without it's $82.95 . Ridiculous!
I've yet to see a bundle (non promo) package with anything above their 3M / 256.
It should also be pointed out that Charter keeps a large amount of customers by retention measures. Often by offering folks promos, sometimes ones that were only intended for new customers. -- "Sir SIR! We don't use DHCP servers. We only use IBM & Microsoft servers." From there my call to tech support went steadily downhill. | |
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