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Re: DOJ Bullying?
said by sporkme  :said by nixen :said by N10Cities :Hmmmm.....I'll bet companies like EMC and others that specialize in NAS storage solutions WOULD LOVE to see this come to pass....because their business would grow by leaps and bounds! Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPPA, etc already are a big boost...nothing really wrong with that...just an observation... Actaully, no, disk makers won't really benefit. That's not the type of data you keep on disk. Companies, like StorageTeK and ADIC, that make large tape libraries and companies, like Iron Mountain, that store tapes would benefit most. What about all those folks pushing SATA as "near-line" storage? Who would you say is actually making inroads with that? I mean with a 3Ware controller and 500GB SATA drives you can easily get 5TB in a 3U case... But why would you want to?
With tape, you do your daily vault, spit out the tape when it's and put it on a shelf until the retention policy has expired. Depending on your storage policies, a robot potentially never becomes full. You just keep rotating full tapes out and floating new ones in.
With a disk-based solution, you keep those disks spinning pretty much until they die. All those constantly spinning disks require a constant power pull. This also necessitates heat dissipation. Worse: what do you do when you've filled up those disks? You've got to replace them - either by incrementally replacing them or fully replacing the storage array.
Disk is great for transactional storage and even nearline storage. However, for "compliance" stuff, tape is the way to go.
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said by nixen :said by N10Cities :Hmmmm.....I'll bet companies like EMC and others that specialize in NAS storage solutions WOULD LOVE to see this come to pass....because their business would grow by leaps and bounds! Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPPA, etc already are a big boost...nothing really wrong with that...just an observation... Actaully, no, disk makers won't really benefit. That's not the type of data you keep on disk. Companies, like StorageTeK and ADIC, that make large tape libraries and companies, like Iron Mountain, that store tapes would benefit most. What about all those folks pushing SATA as "near-line" storage? Who would you say is actually making inroads with that? I mean with a 3Ware controller and 500GB SATA drives you can easily get 5TB in a 3U case...
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that sounds about right to me. |
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in the name of terrorism (durka-durka-jihad) we are dealt yet more harm from terrorists, we ar having our privacy stripped away. In the name of combating kiddy porn or terrorists (both are scum) we as a whole have to think will I get raided if I search for ---? I want to be able to type in on google how to setup a moonshine still, or search for an internet pharmacy selling cheap viagra or how to make a potato gun with out a team of FBI swat commandos holding a gun to my temple. This is America, we need to protet it but we need COMMON SENSE here. Whos with me? |
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said by N10Cities :Hmmmm.....I'll bet companies like EMC and others that specialize in NAS storage solutions WOULD LOVE to see this come to pass....because their business would grow by leaps and bounds! Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPPA, etc already are a big boost...nothing really wrong with that...just an observation... Actaully, no, disk makers won't really benefit. That's not the type of data you keep on disk. Companies, like StorageTeK and ADIC, that make large tape libraries and companies, like Iron Mountain, that store tapes would benefit most.
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That's right and were paying them to snoop into our lives through federal taxes. They just want to be high tech peeping toms like we are some sort of reality tv show. |
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said by GhostDoggy :Using child pornography as the excuse for attempting to mandate this kind of requirement is pure BS. They have alterior motives, but no one seems brave enough to confront them on it publicly. Besides, trying to store millions of subscribers data for a year, let alone two, would be astronomical in costs. Heck, most can't support a robust NNTP server let alone capture and retain for periods of 6-8 times longer than the most premiere new service already afoot. I think the DOJ needs to take a basic computing class, because they obviously are asking ISPs to turn straw into gold. Hmmmm.....I'll bet companies like EMC and others that specialize in NAS storage solutions WOULD LOVE to see this come to pass....because their business would grow by leaps and bounds! Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPPA, etc already are a big boost...nothing really wrong with that...just an observation... |
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