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A quick look at the Missouri's University network shows that we have peering with ATT and Qwest (in the past we had one with SBC also, but since the merger that doesn't count anymore). Point being? ATT already watches and logs everything we do - no need for redundency.
I doubt they do that, no matter what the buzz is about NSA & AT&T.
Well, that's your usual pro-corporation, pro-Bush uninformed-styled crap - they do it.
FYI: that's the point behind the direct fiber split to the NSA, to be able to see everything..


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A quick look at the Missouri's University network shows that we have peering with ATT and Qwest (in the past we had one with SBC also, but since the merger that doesn't count anymore). Point being? ATT already watches and logs everything we do - no need for redundency.
I doubt they do that, no matter what the buzz is about NSA & AT&T. But it really doesn't matter. Because law enforcement may want to tap LOCAL LAN traffic while pursuing a criminal. And AT&T or Qwest or whoever wouldn't see traffic contained within the university lans. And a court order would still apply there too.
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I think the universities are GREATLY overstating the costs of implementing this. Most already have the network mgt tools(sniffers for ex.) in place to do this with little additional costs. I believe they are exaggerating the costs because they have a philosophical disagreement with helping the government and law enforcement to catch students breaking the law.

Unless overturned by the Supreme Court, this ruling means that universities, ISP's, etc. must install wiretapping equipment at their own expense so that law enforcement(with a court order) can tap into VOIP, emails, IM's, etc, on internet connections. And I believe the Supreme Court, as currently constituted, will uphold this ruling.
Why should universities be forced to do this in the first place? They have peering agreements with outside networks like ATT for example. A quick look at the Missouri's University network shows that we have peering with ATT and Qwest (in the past we had one with SBC also, but since the merger that doesn't count anymore). Point being? ATT already watches and logs everything we do - no need for redundency.
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