cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| reply to rachelsfx
Re: I agree
said by rachelsfx  :Project Lightspeed is a JOKE! Even Luke Skywalker agrees. FIOS isn't going to stay that cheap for long with $100 billion on the line. Cell and VOIP is killing off the RBOCs. I'm all for FULL net neutrality. Anything else is ridiculous. Rachel You might want to hold off on calling Lightspeed a joke. If it becomes available as rapidly as ATT claims, I dont think the cable companies will be laughing at all. I have had the service for about a month now and it is quite competitive package to local cable offerings. It does quite a few things better than cable. |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
 ·Mediacom
| Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it?
Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.)
Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
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said by cwh :said by rachelsfx :Project Lightspeed is a JOKE! Even Luke Skywalker agrees. FIOS isn't going to stay that cheap for long with $100 billion on the line. Cell and VOIP is killing off the RBOCs. I'm all for FULL net neutrality. Anything else is ridiculous. Rachel You might want to hold off on calling Lightspeed a joke. If it becomes available as rapidly as ATT claims, I dont think the cable companies will be laughing at all. I have had the service for about a month now and it is quite competitive package to local cable offerings. It does quite a few things better than cable. How have you had it for two months now? You a beta tester? I thought it was just recently released.
Also, when people say that "it does quite a few things better than cable", you often get more creidt when you explain that. In other words, you post is like a menu with good pictures on it,.. make you desire the food but doesn't satify the appetite until the food arrives...
So let's hear about the things that make light speed good. |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| said by fiberguy : How have you had it for two months now? You a beta tester? I thought it was just recently released.
Also, when people say that "it does quite a few things better than cable", you often get more creidt when you explain that. In other words, you post is like a menu with good pictures on it,.. make you desire the food but doesn't satify the appetite until the food arrives...
So let's hear about the things that make light speed good.
I have had the service about a month now, not two. I live in one of the trial neighborhoods in san antonio.
Things I like.
1. Instant channel changing.
2. PIP when browsing channels.
3. PIP on favorites list.
4. 3 settop dvr boxes as part of the package.
5. Settop UI is huge improvemnt over current cable offerings.
6. So far the customer support has been good.
7. My broadband connection is fast and not suffering packetloss. Road runner apparently is suffering in this area.
8. Options for usable bandwidth tiers. 1.5/1 is the lowest tier. RRlite is 384/384.
9. Residentual gateway with built in firewall w/statefull packet inspection. My rt314 got retired after 6 years of service after the RG got plugged in.
10. The install technicians did the interal wiring changes right. Everything is properly mounted and bundled up nicely.
Things I have had problems with.
1. Some of the kids cartoons display compression artifacts at times. Should be easily fixed by adjusting the compression paremeters. A stream of these cartoons could not take up much space to begin with.
2. No dual tuner on the current settop boxes. No HD. New settop boxes will be available in a few months to replace these. For now, not a big deal.
3. Occasional dropping of packets causing frame errors. It is not frequent enough to be a problem and it happened on digital cable as well. |
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TheGhost
Premium
join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL
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| reply to pabster
said by pabster :Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it? Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.) Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are. Again, it depends on your area. Here I pay more per month for cable and have less upload speed. Here 6MB/384K cable is $43 w/TV and $60 w/o TV while 6MB/768K at&t ADSL is $28 plus phone line for first year, $40 after, or whatever latest 1yr contract is at.
We already have a land line and are looking at Satellite, so DSL would be cheaper for a better upload speed. Better upload is another part of the reason we will be switching (corporate file transfer - I don't do P2P). Download is most likely only going to be around 5+MB due to overhead, but still close.
Cable does not "blow away" DSL in many areas, and for some folks the cheaper prices are preferred to the higher potential speeds (for download, upload is less). |
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pabster
join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
·Mediacom
| I disagree, again. I'll venture to guess in almost every market cable offers higher maximum speeds than DSL. When was the last time you saw 10Mbps+ DSL? (Note that in many areas cable is at 15Mbps+ now to compete with FiOS.) DSL is often stuck at 3Mbps or less. Only a select few are at the 5-6 range.
The fact is AT&T are a bunch of corporate stooges living in the past. The fact that they believe 6Mbps is 'sufficient' for next-generation offerings is but a mere example.
The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well. AT&T's "Project Lightspeed" is a far, far less ambitious effort. If they really cap off the 'net at 6Mbps and use the rest for video and what-not, it's gonna flop. |
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rachelsfx
join:2004-09-27
Pensacola, FL
·Cox HSI
| reply to cwh
Well, a beta tester is going to get all that pretty cheap for free advertising and word of mouth.
It is funny the Death Star can't relay cartons right, has no HD, and, sure, customer support is going to be good with a handful of users. Like you stated, bandwidth problems already because too much compression.
FIOS customers report how many problems? Almost none. |
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| said by rachelsfx :Well, a beta tester is going to get all that pretty cheap for free advertising and word of mouth. It is funny the Death Star can't relay cartons right, has no HD, and, sure, customer support is going to be good with a handful of users. Like you stated, bandwidth problems already because too much compression. FIOS customers report how many problems? Almost none. Well as soon fios is available here.
Until then, I am quite quite glad there are more options available to consumers. My guess is you will enjoy the competition as well, even if you deem it inferior to cirrent options. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to pabster
said by pabster :Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it? Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.) Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are. And no PPPoE with cable.
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cwh
join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX
| said by dvd536 :said by pabster :Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it? Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.) Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are. And no PPPoE with cable. No PPPoE on lightspeed either. |
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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said by pabster :The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well. Actually FIOS is not doing that well. In areas that FIOS has been available for one year only 17% have signed up. Broadband is not that big a deal to most people. Hard to believe isn't it. The people are going to lose their internet to big money, big money always wins. |
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attsbcisgay
join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA
| said by batterup :said by pabster :The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well. Actually FIOS is not doing that well. In areas that FIOS has been available for one year only 17% have signed up. Broadband is not that big a deal to most people. Hard to believe isn't it. The people are going to lose their internet to big money, big money always wins. to you not a big deal... hmm ever thought about going back to dialup cause broadband isn't so useful to ya???
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batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
Premium
join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
clubs:
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by attsbcisgay :said by batterup :said by pabster :The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well. Actually FIOS is not doing that well. In areas that FIOS has been available for one year only 17% have signed up. Broadband is not that big a deal to most people. Hard to believe isn't it. The people are going to lose their internet to big money, big money always wins. to you not a big deal... hmm ever thought about going back to dialup cause broadband isn't so useful to ya??? Put on your glasses and read my post again. 83% of the people that had the ability to get FIOS for over a year did not do so. I can't get FIOS. If you only live in your small world of Broadband Reports you will not get the big picture. To run a business and be able to pay dividends to widows and orphans Verizon has to see the big picture. |
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