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pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
·Mediacom

reply to cwh
Re: I agree

Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it?

Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.)

Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are.

TheGhost
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join:2003-01-03
Lake Forest, IL
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said by pabster See Profile :

Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it?

Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.)

Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are.
Again, it depends on your area. Here I pay more per month for cable and have less upload speed. Here 6MB/384K cable is $43 w/TV and $60 w/o TV while 6MB/768K at&t ADSL is $28 plus phone line for first year, $40 after, or whatever latest 1yr contract is at.

We already have a land line and are looking at Satellite, so DSL would be cheaper for a better upload speed. Better upload is another part of the reason we will be switching (corporate file transfer - I don't do P2P). Download is most likely only going to be around 5+MB due to overhead, but still close.

Cable does not "blow away" DSL in many areas, and for some folks the cheaper prices are preferred to the higher potential speeds (for download, upload is less).

pabster

join:2001-12-09
Waterloo, IA
·Mediacom

I disagree, again. I'll venture to guess in almost every market cable offers higher maximum speeds than DSL. When was the last time you saw 10Mbps+ DSL? (Note that in many areas cable is at 15Mbps+ now to compete with FiOS.) DSL is often stuck at 3Mbps or less. Only a select few are at the 5-6 range.

The fact is AT&T are a bunch of corporate stooges living in the past. The fact that they believe 6Mbps is 'sufficient' for next-generation offerings is but a mere example.

The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well. AT&T's "Project Lightspeed" is a far, far less ambitious effort. If they really cap off the 'net at 6Mbps and use the rest for video and what-not, it's gonna flop.


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to pabster
said by pabster See Profile :

Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it?

Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.)

Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are.
And no PPPoE with cable.
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You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth

cwh

join:2006-05-14
San Antonio, TX

said by dvd536 See Profile :

said by pabster See Profile :

Well, the truth hurts, doesn't it?

Cable blows away AT&T (and other DSL competitiors') offerings. Here I get 10Mbps service for less than I could get 6Mbps DSL (IF I could get it.)

Project Lightspeed IS a joke. AT&T opining that 6Mbps is sufficient for the services of the future shows just how fucking clueless these executives really are.
And no PPPoE with cable.
No PPPoE on lightspeed either.


batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL

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said by pabster See Profile :


The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well.
Actually FIOS is not doing that well. In areas that FIOS has been available for one year only 17% have signed up. Broadband is not that big a deal to most people. Hard to believe isn't it. The people are going to lose their internet to big money, big money always wins.

attsbcisgay

join:2003-03-18
Beverly Hills, CA

said by batterup See Profile :

said by pabster See Profile :


The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well.
Actually FIOS is not doing that well. In areas that FIOS has been available for one year only 17% have signed up. Broadband is not that big a deal to most people. Hard to believe isn't it. The people are going to lose their internet to big money, big money always wins.
to you not a big deal... hmm ever thought about going back to dialup cause broadband isn't so useful to ya???


batterup
I Can Not Tell A Lie.
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL

said by attsbcisgay See Profile :

said by batterup See Profile :

said by pabster See Profile :


The telcos really don't have a choice here. Verizon decided to bite the bullet and cost with FiOS, and it's turned out well.
Actually FIOS is not doing that well. In areas that FIOS has been available for one year only 17% have signed up. Broadband is not that big a deal to most people. Hard to believe isn't it. The people are going to lose their internet to big money, big money always wins.
to you not a big deal... hmm ever thought about going back to dialup cause broadband isn't so useful to ya???

Put on your glasses and read my post again. 83% of the people that had the ability to get FIOS for over a year did not do so. I can't get FIOS. If you only live in your small world of Broadband Reports you will not get the big picture. To run a business and be able to pay dividends to widows and orphans Verizon has to see the big picture.
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