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jlsjrf29

join:2002-05-12
San Jose, CA

If verizon sends me notice

If they send me notice they they are putting me on a metered service when in fact i signed up for the so called unlimited use service I will just pay the $175 early term fee and be done with it.

Such morons verizon is starting to become
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batterup
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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said by jlsjrf29 See Profile :



Such morons verizon is starting to become
The public demanded the break up of the Bell System. They demanded competition. Comcast a Verizon competitor has been sending out such letters for years. Every two bit company promises people services that they can't deliver and people believe them. Verizon is just playing the game. The game is called competition.
They people believed MCI/Worldcom and broke up the Bell System. Why aren't the people happy?

If you want to read about a real hustle see
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7
This thread has been going on for many years.


Michieru2
zzz zzz zzz
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

"Every two bit company promises people services that they can't deliver and people believe them."

People do not need to believe, it's an agreement between the customer and the business whose providing them service. If we agree that if I pay you such and such for month for unlimited bandwidth. We both agree and it's settled. If you a providing me something that I am not asking for, this was not the deal we agreed upon.

Competition means competiting with other businesses and providing services better than the other. Not simply stating they provide a service that they cannot offer and then send me a crying letter over the mail that I am using such bandwidth.

That's called false advertising, if they know they cannot provide unlimited they should sell it as metered. It takes money to make money, and same goes for any business. Not offer something you can't even offer and making a risk that the customer won't use much bandwidth.

Yes a business is all about risk, but don't send a crying letter to customers because your risk is not working to your advantage.

Zoder

join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
reply to batterup
That's all well and good except for one thing. Deceptive advertising is against the law. They don't have to offer unlimited usage if they don't want to. But they shouldn't be advertising that it is.

Zoder

join:2002-04-16
Miami, FL
reply to jlsjrf29
Usually you can cancel your contract without a fee within 30 days if they change the terms of your agreement.


batterup
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL

reply to Michieru2
said by Michieru2 See Profile :



Yes a business is all about risk, but don't send a crying letter to customers because your risk is not working to your advantage.
You agreed to the TOS, you are a small residential user, you can not buy a politician. The best you can do is cry on Broadband Reports.
»Capping Discussion Here Only - Part 7
It is all covered and explained in that seven part many thousand post thread. You can not say anything that has not been said before.

The fact is providers can do with out the so called ABUSERS It has worked for Cablevision for years and there has never been a legal challenge. It is in the TOS.


Michieru2
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join:2005-01-28
Miami, FL

Of course it is in the TOS which is why I always encourage users to read it before buying. I do not have Verizon 3G, and frankly I stay clear from Verizon.

Nor do I have 3G service, but that's still false advertising IMHO. Plus calling users ABUSERS for something that's advertised as unlimited is pretty unethical. Although whats being said on the commercial is unlimited, but reading the TOS shows it's actually metered. A conflict between advertising and TOS.

Like I stated before in another post, let ISP's offer unlimited pipe's and metered pipe's. But let it be TRUE unlimited access. Frankly a do not require 3G services and I am fine with my Nextel's iDEN data access because all I do while on the go is be on IRC, Gtalk, or simply SSH. Ping times are high but the service is reliable and it works. My servers at home which do have faster pipe's are what get all the data.

Plus nobody is crying, I am simply stating my opinion. If that constitutes as crying then you are as well. By the way I do not need a politician, nor will I ever require one because if I am to be blamed for something I do not hide behind legal papers and court system nor setup TOS papers that contradict to what I just advertised.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA

reply to jlsjrf29
quote:
If they send me notice they they are putting me on a metered service when in fact i signed up for the so called unlimited use service I will just pay the $175 early term fee and be done with it.
No, they will let you go without the ETF.


batterup
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join:2003-02-06
Netcong, NJ
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·Verizon Online DSL

said by itguy05 See Profile :

quote:
If they send me notice they they are putting me on a metered service when in fact i signed up for the so called unlimited use service I will just pay the $175 early term fee and be done with it.
No, they will let you go without the ETF.
That is now way to run a cut throat business, Verizon is acting like Ma Bell.

itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
How so? Forces the real heavy users to pay or become a burden on your competition. Both of which are good for your bottom line.


batterup
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said by itguy05 See Profile :

How so? Forces the real heavy users to pay or become a burden on your competition. Both of which are good for your bottom line.
No, by not insisting on the early termination fee.

jlsjrf29

join:2002-05-12
San Jose, CA

reply to jlsjrf29
I think a law suit should be brought against the telcos when they say unlimited in which they mean they are actually limited based on the term and conditions which sells reps dont even bother to mention when you sign up.

When I got my card I asked the sells rep " So I can download what ever I want on this connection" His reply "Yes as its unlimited service at no additional charge" when in fact that little fine print at the very bottom says differently.

I think the telcos are getting too pushy, and another thing they are worried about downloads but the push cell phone tv and so on which also takes up bandwidth, should there be a limit to how much they can watch.
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itguy05

join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA

reply to batterup
quote:
No, by not insisting on the early termination fee.
Still don't get it. I run a buffet. Mr 500 lbs comes in and camps out all day, gorging himself on crab legs and steak. After about an hour I'm going to ask him to leave. If he doesn't, I'm going to refund his money and kick him out.

Either way, it's a win for me as the business owner. He can go to the next buffet (and eat them into bankrupcy) and I get to cut my losses.

Same thing here - with Verizon if you're the gross over user, they will let you go no strings attatched. Since the hardware can only be used with their service, it's no loss as if you sell it, they will gain another customer with low up front costs...


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to jlsjrf29
said by jlsjrf29 See Profile :

If they send me notice they they are putting me on a metered service when in fact i signed up for the so called unlimited use service I will just pay the $175 early term fee and be done with it.
Actually you wont have to pay the ETF because they are in effect changing your contract.
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