John Galt
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Re: Summary of FCC requirements
said by slipstream1  :$5000.00 is not what I would classify as quite low. That seems to be quite high to me. In actuality, that IS low.
Figure that the cert lab assigns a single engineer to evaluate your device...and that takes 40 hours. At the rate of $75 per hour (random minimum realistic rate...most probably 2X-3X that) they will have $3,000 in the process...add a glitch or two and that takes care of the other $2,000.
Lutful's comment about using the same cert lab is correct...if they know the device they can use their previous knowledge to shorten the certification time. Otherwise, it is start from Square One.
Helpful hint: In the "real world" of business, a $1,000 to a business is just like a $1 to a regular person.
The typical WISP does not operate in the "real world" of business...as much as they would like to think that they do.
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mrbueno
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JG: I've spoken to you before and had a great time talking to you. You are insightful and a pleasure to speak to. However, your post makes you sound like one of the bankers in the Capital One Small Business commercials where they scrape a small business man off their shoe and dump him in the trash. I only bring this up because of the respect I have developed for you.
Many businesses have tens of thousands of customers and spend millions a month. However that puts them no more in the "real world" of business than someone who took the initiative to get creative with some hardware on a budget to bring high speed services to an area.
Business exists to create income opportunity for people. At the end of the day $1000 spent on the business could potentially be $1000 taken from you or your family. I am sure quite a few people see it this way.
I do get where you are coming from, but it sounds a bit harsh. |
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John Galt
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| said by mrbueno :I do get where you are coming from, but it sounds a bit harsh. I understand what you are saying and I appreciate your point of view.
The point of my post is if you are expecting to receive "professional services" then you must expect to pay "professional prices".
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slipstream1
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| I understand that you have to pay professional prices to receive professional services, but $5000.00 is alot of money. Are Deliberant and High Gain radios FCC certified? Or are we just speaking about the guys who brew thier own radios, ie. Mikrotik, StarOS, Ikarus, and Ubiquiti stuff? |
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John Galt
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| said by slipstream1 :Are Deliberant and High Gain radios FCC certified? Or are we just speaking about the guys who brew thier own radios, ie. Mikrotik, StarOS, Ikarus, and Ubiquiti stuff? The "big question" is this: where does the responsibility for FCC certification lie?
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lutful
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said by slipstream1 :Are Deliberant and High Gain radios FCC certified? First, let's add Demarctech and many other "system integrator" type WISP vendors to this list to be fair to these two companies. 
Most of the miniPCI cards and a few of the single-board radios are FCC certified by the OEM companies like Ubiquiti, Senao, Compex, Wistron, etc.
The certification labs are telling me that vendors should get their complete "as-sold" radio systems re-certified and place valid FCC ID labels on the outside.
There seems to be very little flexibility for models with amplifiers or integrated panel antennas, but there could be grey areas such as taking PCB out of FCC certified indoor system and putting it in an outdoor enclosure.
said by slipstream1 :guys who brew thier own radios, ie. Mikrotik, StarOS, Ikarus, and Ubiquiti stuff? It seems that FCC (and IC) are somewhat more lenient on knowledgable people putting together an outdoor system for their own use using FCC-certified modules and staying within EIRP rules.
However, if we make more than 5 of the same system, the rules do ask us to get it tested and certified. |
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